ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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(11-08-2018, 01:01 PM)Olga.bohai Wrote: Hello everybody!
I've just joined your forum and want to specify my yesterday message about tigers expelled brown bears. This is only my assumption, not an axiom, I'm not a scientist and just provide big cats watching tours in my region and communicate with the reserves a lot. Nobody can confirm such fact as there is really small amount of records about tigers and brown bears behavior because Russians started to populate Primorsky krai in the beginning of XX century, nobody cared about rare animals protection, the small amount of tiny reserves got a small amount of budget money during USSR government and especially in 1990-s when there were no state budget for schools and hospitals not talking about reserves... The situation changed in 2000-s when international funds like WWF, WCS attracted world's attention to the problem of tigers and leopards extermination and only after that the reserves could attract money for their work on tracking, recording, camera traps etc.
I've founded for you the following information:
Records 1965-1976 There were 17 fights between Siberian tiger and brown bear. in 8 cases they both went away, in 6 cases tiger killed bear, in 3 cases bear won. Plus 9 cases of tigers attack for bears dens while sleep (minus 7 adult bears and 9 cubs).
What about population:
brown bears (information for 2013, there is no new data, but only official information for the beginning of 2018 the bears' population decreased for 30% for the last 5 years in Russia).
Primorsky krai (165 000 km2) 2300 bears
Khabarovsky krai (787 000 km2) 12 440 bears

Kamchatka (270 000 km2) 20 120 bears

tigers:
Primorsky krai 2013 about 310, 2018 about 440
Khabarovsky krai 2013 about 85, 2018 about 110.
Kamchatka 0

Also scientists and hunters say 150 kg male tiger kills 150 kg male brown bear. But we can't answer who is stronger in taiga, there are a lot of influencing factors: poachers, hunger, ungulates and feed amount, deforestation etc.

So I'd suggest you to stop arguing about impossible answer and spend this time on saving our planet))

P.S. Sorry for my bad English

Welcome! Nice to have someone like you here :) Arguing about some animals seems to be endless swamp in many places. I find that topic too in a way quite worn out. Old information debated over and over again and nothing really relevant new information in years. There they are, tigers and bears, certain balance found between them, but as usual, for people that kind of balance is almost impossible :) But as long as there is life, there is hope....

I would find it far more interesting to hear from local person, that how do you see situation there in reality what comes to logging and poaching.... I think, that those two issues are relevant things what comes to tigers and all animals there. This thread is after all about tigers and threat of extinction... Reply