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11-05-2014, 10:10 AM( This post was last modified: 11-05-2014, 10:32 AM by GuateGojira )
(11-03-2014, 11:27 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Don't come here and say its a " fallacy from me" when you have no actual data to back a single claim on this topic. I guarantee you that I have seen photos of sumatran tigers that was absolutely taken by a photographer and not a camera trap. So you are wrong when you try and say that "ALL photos taken are by camera traps".
"Wrong by WHO??? Only for you, because several tigers had been collared (and will be collared) and lived a perfectly normal life"
Wrong for the TIGERS! That is why we are here, for the animals, is it not?
You have a harsh way of thinking if you only care about humans and not the well being of these animals. So while SOME tigers have lived "normal" lives after being collared, others have Died, attacked humans, died due to stress related dieses etc. A lot more than 2, that is for sure.
Gaute, I don't care to debate this with you any more. You're not going to change whatever view you have, thats fine. But I certainly will not change my stance on the larger concern for a tigers well being over a humans inquiry. So I think this has run its course between us.
1. Sumatra is NOT India, there are not photographers there, nor tourists or anything like that, you should know Sumatra before to make such comments. All pictures of Sumatran tigers in the wild are from camera traps.
2. That is for sure???? Where is the data to backup this lie? Only LESS than four tigers have died in 40 YEARS do collaring in the Indian Subcontinent, all accidents!!! It is not wrong for tigers and to say that I only care about humans and not about animals is just an stupidity from your part. You have the harsh way of thinking, attacking all the posters that present different ideas than you. You are now acting against ALL scientific work done in all this time and this is an attack to the very soul of this place too. There is not a single death of tigers in the Indian subcontinent caused by "stress", you are now creating lies about something that have NOT happened. You have crossed the line, creating myths and attacking the science in such an intense way just because your "hippie" mind can't accept that collar are not bad for tigers in ANY way.
3. I will offer you ONE chance to apologize about all these calumnies, specially about this:
Pckts said: "you have no actual data to back a single claim on this topic"
Are you challenge me??? Are you SURE about this??? Really sure??? You know what is coming now. The waves that I create can't be stooped, you should know that already. You want to suffer like many hard-core-lion-fans in the past of AVA???
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