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(09-14-2018, 10:39 AM)Herekitty Wrote: You may be right. The problem is your only reference source is the comments section of a Legend Safaris photograph, which doesn't carry a lot of statistical significance. Can anyone confirm that the well known pair of Mbiri males currently around Tanda Tula were born in 2013? Both the Mbiri male and Mbiri Pride facebook pages state that they were born in 2011.
By the way, I did read the comments you referred to, and they made clear that the photo you posted above is the Rockfig male.
I have seen reference but i don't remember them all. I thought most of you knew this but seems you are all new here.
I had been wondering what happened to the two older Mbiri males. Are there any ranger reports to confirm the identity of the two older Mbiri males other than comments from readers?
There are two separate litters of Mbiri males, an older litter of two males and a younger litter of 3 males. The two older males are a few years older than the younger ones so went nomadic first and went into the KNP in late 2014. Around 2015, one of the two older males returned to the Mbiri pride in Tintswalo alone and in really bad condition. The assumption was that his brother had died. After returning to the natal pride, there were some tensions with this male and the three younger males. He received a few beatings from the 3 younger males and a beating from skorro and sizanni of the Thanda Impi coalition so eventually left the pride again. Around the same time, the younger ones had gone nomadic as well due to pressure from the Thanda Impi males. One of the three younger males died during their nomadic period and now we are left with only two males out of the three that dominate the Timbavati area.