There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
10-03-2014, 08:03 PM( This post was last modified: 10-03-2014, 08:05 PM by Pckts )
(10-03-2014, 09:55 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
(10-02-2014, 11:32 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: "In your mind, all operations on humans most be canceled"
Once again, WE must protect them from US!
Do you know what I am saying?
We must protect them from POACHING by us. What does that mean?
It means, forest officials must be payed and allocated weapons to compete against the poachers, they must be given far more money that these gov'ts make from exploiting these animals through tourism. Not so they can INTRUDE on the animals, so they can STOP POACHING!
So please stop misinforming others about what I am saying, because it is absolutely false!
You also have no idea if Ranthambhore is any more or less aggressive towards humans, tigers where just moved from Bandhavargh to stop so much human tiger conflict, the only reason Ranthambhore has more conflict is because its the most popular tourism zone in India and easiest to see tigers, and the most people go there. Hence more interaction between the two species.
You misunderstand me. I was referring to the “medical” operations in humans. The example of your logic is that just because some people died in medical operations, then all procedures must be canceled, and that is not the case. That is my example.
About the misinformation issue, there is no misinformation here, I just put the data like it is and your own words show how wrong you are. At the end, it is you who is misinforming about a pretty normal procedure that is a great tool for science, everywhere.
Finally, you also have no idea about the aggressiveness of the tigers in Ranthambore, so your example of the supposed aggressive male tiger do to radiocollaring is incorrect and even probably false, from the root of the information (park rangers). In Bandhavgarh there is also human contact, as much as Ranthambore, and still there are not too many reports of aggressive cases, in comparison, at least. Again, radiocollaring has NOTHING to do with aggressiveness in tigers, which is a myth with no scientific base.
You are not comparing apples to apples.
Medical operations are used during sickness or injury.
Radio collars have nothing to do with sickness or injury.
"At the end, it is you who is misinforming about a pretty normal procedure that is a great tool for science,"
What have I misinformed on?
I have showed numerous accounts of animals dying for the sake of radio collaring or being sedated for expierements etc.
Vijay has backed the aggression of (T24 or T42) towards humans since being collared, videos have shown him chasing jeeps for a unusual amount of time, and human lives have been lost because of him. Wether that has everything to do with being collared or not, its still fact that its happened.
You have tried to twist everything I say, but remember, this debate had one start.
Are radio collars worth the risk?
Absolutely not, especially since none of the information we gain from them can't be gained by a far less intrusive measure.
When it comes to relocation to repopulate a area while moving a overcrowded area, I think the risk is worth the reward.
But even that risk wouldn't need to be taken if we would simply stop putting up man made barriers and killing these animals.
So etiher way you slice it, there is no real gain to collaring a tiger as oppose to conserving its habitat and monitoring its movements.
Eyes on or hands on? A discussion of human interference
