ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

[Wolverine]

(04-13-2018, 10:16 PM)qstxyz Wrote:

(04-13-2018, 10:05 PM)Rishi Wrote:

(04-13-2018, 08:04 PM)qstxyz Wrote:

(04-13-2018, 12:47 AM)Wolverine Wrote: @qstxyz what is situation with tigers in Vietnam now? Any developments?
If you want you could answer in Indochinese tiger thread:
https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-indo-ch...ers?page=5

Really ashamed, in our country they said so much about the war history, Vietnamese people're so sweet, Vietnam's so beautiful place... but our environment're just destroyed by our people. 
Sad but true, you know
In the past, my people were so proud of Vietnam' natural resources, they said: "golden-forest, silver-ocean". But there're no more. Now in our country's full with 90 millions people and ZERO wild animals! Our Vietnamese children (like my nephew) just know animal in the zoo right now.

For the wild tiger, in 2015 the VN ministry of environmenta resource reported: just 30 wild Indochines Tigers left in our reserves. But nearly all of them just came from Laos and Cambodia (they travel through the boder). And you know, VN is the "famous-black-market" of wild animal's organ (for the Chinese traditional medicine. Chinese bussiness men pay BILLIONS of Vietnam Dong (money units of VN) for this). 

In our country, arround the Tiger reserve is the country side and people in there still lack the education, so they dont know the living-wild-tigers r much more important and worthy than the death-tigers. Some of my friends travelled to severals VN tiger reserves (not exactly, I'm architect, my friends're engineers, worked at the industrial zone near the forest) and they told me the forest guard and the poachers just were the same! i'm fuckin sick with that!

Couple years ago, I read in Nghe An & Thanh Hoa province of VN (the middle of our country, share the border line with Laos and Cambodia) they breed tiger like cattle, and slaugh them to take the organ, much more disgusting than the Tiger-Temple in Thailand. I guess the cubs almost came from Laos by smuggling. Here some articles and a video (the last link):

http://vietnamnet.vn/vn/thoi-su/sung-sot...92540.html
https://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/thoi-su/ho...08596.html
http://dantri.com.vn/video/dot-nhap-tran...-64409.htm
(plz use the google translate, sorry for the inconvenience)

And shameful again, they do it with the supported of several local officials as a highly-profitable-industry!
Hopeless for Indochinese Tigers and all wild animals in Vietnam now

I follow our forums several years and i heard you guy talked about Minh Ha (some topics of Kanha tigers), his full name is LÊ MINH HÀ, he's workin in Australia now, if you contact him (facebook) and ask him some questions about Vietnam Indochinese Tigers, so like i said before, he can tell you our sad story of tigers (Hell yeah, his English much better than me!)

If our country've even only 1 real-tiger-reserve where the tigers had real-protections, real chance to live ---> so what do i do here in the topic of India-Tigers instead of going straight to the Vietnam-tigers??????
Simply no chance for VN tiger. God forgive our Vietnamese people, they dont know what they've done...

I think you guys all know about the infomation that i provided above, just not something new, so i post here not the Indochinese Tigers topic.

At last sorry all you guys for the sad news from VN.

Bonus: once upon a time in Vietnam:

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Story behind this image: http://www.ichiban1.org/html/stories/story_46_tiger.htm

Chaos does that to any country... It'll take time.

Vietnam 's Protected area network too seems lacklustre compared to her neighbours'.

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But on the bright side, it still has most of its forests & compratively low population. 
Being a long nation, if Laos & Cambodia makes a progress, Vietnam works probably get a share the fruits too...

Yeah, sure about that. Because Vn Laos and Cambodia make the Indochina-area.
Sometimes i thought about crazy idea that: link all the nature reserves of mainland ASEAN (Thailand, Myamar and the 3 countries of Indochina) like you guys did with Project Tiger in India ---> so tigers can travel and increase their biomass, but with all these chaos (security, black markets and the ignorance of people specially Vietnamese people) its just the wildest dreams, link for the wild animals will become the highway-for-the-poachers, what's ironically

Thank you for answer @qstxyz
So, before decades situation with tiger protection was comperatively similar in all countries, now the "tiger countries" seems to have split on 2 distinct groups - situation in India, Russia and Nepal is going relatively well, situation in countries of South East Asia seems to be disastrous.

Especially disastrous is situation in Indonesia, a 240 million beautiful island country with probably largest variety of wild animal species in the planet - starting with orangutans and Comodo dragons and finishing with tigers and rhinos.I haven't heard even one single good record for effective wildlife protection in Indonesia in any time at any place for any wild animal specie. All wild animal species there seems to be declining in numbers or to be in desperate situation.... and there is no even one wild animal specie to got out of misery.
The most prominent example is the Sumatran rhino who could be assumed as dead. Actually its not dead but the last few dozens of rhinos stop to reproduse so it could be said that this rhino specie is in the stage of reproductive dead. If Sumatran rhino disapears and thats 90% certain that will be the first large land mammal specie disapeared from the planet since last Ice Age 10 thousand years ago. Reply