There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
02-02-2018, 07:35 AM( This post was last modified: 02-02-2018, 08:22 PM by peter )
(02-02-2018, 04:14 AM)Amnon242 Wrote: Who is more social: japanese people or african people? There is no doubt that african people are more social. But are they more intelligent than japanese people?
Be careful when you enter the human department, Amnon. Our world, partly as a result of overpopulation, is very complicated in nearly all respects. In order to get to some clarity, humans often indulge in classifications. I understand, but they are an easy way out. Same for generalisations.
As to the topic discussed. It depends on the perspective used.
At the university, I saw people who passed every test with ease. As I was living in two different worlds, I also saw people hardly able to express themselves. The first group did very well in life. They used their qualities to adapt and got to the top. The second group struggled all the way. Many died well before their time.
A confirmation of the importance of intelligence, background, training and contacts? No question. But the well-bred had to adapt to the conditions created by people with a similar training and background before them. If not, it was game over. Adapt? Yes, the higher you fly, the more you need to adapt. You need to sacrifice a few ideas if you want to score a few points in life. If I was to say you need to leave fundamental structures as they are, I would be close. Over here, these structures were created by people a few centuries ago. Quite a few could have had good intentions back then, but in the end hawks always take over when it is about power.
Did I see a lot of intelligent people at the top? Yes. Did I see people with insight? Only few. Did they see it coming? Overpopulation and destruction, I mean? Same answer. Did I see compassion? Well, erm, ehh.
And what about those unable to qualify for the race? They didn't fit in and had to prepare for an uphill struggle. A few of them ended up in crime and perished at a young age. Others decided for a different approach, but in most cases they too left our planet way too soon. One of them was one of my brothers. He didn't fit in, but had qualities one only very seldom sees. His music was appreciated and his ability to knock people down even more, but at the level of fundamentals he seemed to be on his own.
Most people say they care about insight, commitment, compassion, creativity, true love and things like that, but in the end they appreciate some things more than others. Quite a few seem fascinated by kingdoms and all that. That's why we have the same system everywhere, that's why we see the same results everywhere and that's why we're heading for the exit real fast.
My brother said many people were unable to feel and understand. At that level, they're absent. This often results in a lack of identity, a lack of cohesion and isolation in the end. Many people don't seem to be really here. They survive. How come? The system used to educate young people produces people able to participate, but it doesn't produce what is needed: adults with a clear identity, awareness, compassion and insight. This is why so many people in the western world in particular feel empty and that's why they need products enabling them to escape from reality.
The system we use has benefits (material wealth as well as a long life) and costs (overpopulation, loss of purpose and destruction of the natural world). Most of us know that the costs will outweigh the benefits in the end, but the attempts to change a few things failed every time. One of the reasons is that the system in use only selects those willing to adapt. As those with a different view are rejected at a young age, one could argue that education doesn't produce what is really needed.
As to animals and intelligence. All wild animals that made it to adulthood are capable in all respects. In spite of that, many perish well before their time. Coincidence often is underestimated. Captive big cats are mere shadows of their wild relatives. Tigers often are more interested in interaction than lions. The reason is that captive tigers often live on their own. Not seldom, they're bored to death. Lions can interact with other lions. They don't care that much about humans or other animals, because they live in their own world. The scenery changed, but they didn't.
Are people living in the western world and part of Asia (Japan, China and India) better trained than people in, say, Africa? Most probably. But it came at a huge cost (a lack of development of the identity and a lot of stress). Furthermore, one has to remember that formal training and intelligence are two very different things. As to training. If the situation in Africa changes in the near future, chances are that there will be invested in education.
Many Africans in my neighbourhood 'know' that every human is connected to an animal when he's born. I agree. They tell their children. At school, these children will be told that one has to distinguish between reality and myth. Chances are they will drop most of the ideas and views considered as 'myths' if they want to 'succeed' in life. I fear the day all of them 'succeeded'. Wisdom and training are different things.
