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04-22-2014, 01:12 AM( This post was last modified: 04-22-2014, 01:32 AM by GrizzlyClaws )
(04-22-2014, 12:50 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:
(04-22-2014, 12:20 AM)'GrizzlyClaws Wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, so the 6.7 cm canines are from a captive and then, we can compare it only with those of captive tigers.
In this case, no wild lion seems to have canines over 6 cm long, while tigers surpass the 7 cm, both of them measured to the gum line.
Interesting new fact that we most take in count.
(04-16-2014, 05:58 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: I recently bought the book “Tiger: the ultimate guide” of Valmik Thapar (2004), and in an article “Filming Tigers” from Mike Birkhead, he states that the large male known as “Madla” that was estimated at 250 kg with a neck of 90 cm, had upper canines that were about 75 mm! (Page 213). This is a new record among Bengal tigers and taking in count that this was measured to the gum line, this means a length of no less than 80 mm in the dry skull, surpassing any wild Amur tiger canine recorded.
Watch Madla and his canines, the record ones in all the modern cats world!!!
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This huge tiger (Madla) was a true giant, probably even larger than the record Nepale tiger Sauraha, as all his available measurements and even its picture shows a larger specimen. Probably, his estimated weight of 250 kg (he bottomed the scale of 550 lb used, but several experts calculated that he weighed that figure, trying to exclude the stomach content) was probably slightly low (Sauraha, been smaller, weighed 260 kg empty belly).
His head is so large that I estimate a skull length of c.39 cm and this is been conservative. [img]images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Yep, those giant specimens of Panthera spelaea/fossilis got the upper canines around 7.5cm from the skull (no less than 45cm), while Madla as a modern big cat got larger upper canines than those prehistoric big cats, then his skull has a good chance of being in the 40cm league.
There is a 6 inches sub-fossil upper canine of Amur tiger that i showed before, maybe the Amur tigers in the past did produce the specimens as impressive as Madla.