White, Black & Golden Tigers

[Pckts]

(07-16-2014, 10:59 AM)'GuateGojira' Wrote:

(07-15-2014, 09:27 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Im not sure how you rebutted my position?
You said these animals would not make it with out human assistance. Yet these animals will all make with out human assistance. If you mean that these animals must be protected from other human beings and the destruction of their world, then yes, they need assistance. But that has nothing to do with them or nature, that has to do with a outside factor that has the means to stop when ever they want.
Its been proven by the numerous animals that have come back on their own the minute they were protected and put on endangered species list and banned the people from killing them. Notice that people had to ban people. Once again, nothing to do with nature. We are arguing symantics at this point.

2ndly I have been absolutey willing to take Corbetts account, but heres the facts.
He specifically said he saw them, got them on video and took pictures.
So, lets see the video lets see the images. With a image you can actually see!

You also speak of corbett like you know everything about him, corbett has quite a few crazy stories that have not been seen by any other man.
No man has ever seen two tigers take on any large prey together, let alone two tigers take on a adult tusker. I'm not saying this doesn't happen, it probably does, but no images, video or eye witness accounts of anything like that has ever been reported by any other person.
Same with the white tiger adult and then with cubs.
2 accounts never seen by another man.....


Gaute also said Sundquist said he saw one, and If i see a email from sundquist saying he saw a white tiger adult or cub, I think i would be more willing to accept his word because from what I have read and seen, he seems to be a more conservative and realistic researcher, IMO.


 


 

Pckts, you are scaring me. You are acting like... Asad!

1. There is not a single account of a large wild animal returning from extinction without the help of humans. There are cases of "invasions" like the pythons in Florida, but there are other factors in those cases. Wild horses, bison and other large mammals, all of them needed the direct help of humans for they recovery.

2. Jim Corbett is one of the most reliable sources, but now you put him in doubt just because he shows wild white tigers! For example, how many times you have defended the account of the two tigers killing the huge tusker, but now you use it to show that Jim made exaggerations? I am sure that many lion-fans would be glad with your words now. However, there is a huge fail in your argument, Jim NEVER said that HE saw that account. Read the book and you will see that he clearly said that some villagers told him that, so he is just telling the story, nothing more. However, in the case of the white tigers, he directly saw it, picture it and his record is in the book. What more do you need? The picture in the book (the digital version, of course) is more clear than many pictures in other post that all of us have accepted. I don't know why you denied its reliability. Why you don't ask Peter? I remember that he have a physical copy of the book. After all, he showed a better version of the two pictures of the Bachelor of Powalgarh.

3. I NEVER said that Dr Sunquist saw a white tigers. I was putting an EXAMPLE, a supposition that IF Dr Sunqusit would saw a white tiger, I will believe in him, just like I believe in Jim Corbett. Be careful with those interpretations.
 

 

I thought you quoted Sundquist as seeing white tigers, I guess not.

Now, don't ever compare me to Asad!
Because you are acting like Bold, by denying the idea of tiger populations growing in Ranthambhore, saying a blurry image is conclusive evidence, saying Corbett is the most reliable source, considering he is a hunter, that alone makes him slightly less reliable,
you saying animals aren't making a comeback?If there's one thing above all to celebrate in the wild, it's nature's resilience. At times, the deck may seem stacked against the world's animals — according to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, the danger of disappearing species is worse than the ongoing financial meltdown — but even a stint on the doomed endangered species list may not be the sealed fate it used to be.Remarkably, several once-threatened species are actually making a comeback these days, resisting extinction and growing in numbers once again. Here are a few animals that, in spite of nearly being wiped out, are enjoying a revival in the wild.
http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/earth-month/...d=28092503

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/curios...s-quiz.htm

http://teachingkidsnews.com/2014/01/06/4...ck-canada/

I can go on and on, you'll try and scew this and say this wouldn't happen with out humans, and I say, yet again.... the only help they need is protection from other humans. All human beings have to do protect them from us, that is it. So, that means, leave them alone and nature will take care of it self. Like the tons of species that are already coming back.

Gaute, you and I have had civil debates, don't call me Asad again. That is BS and you know it Reply