There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
You cannot say "the modern tiger genome is very, very small compared to what it once was"
You have no proof to compare what it "was"
Since there has been only one tiger every brought back from the wild with the white gene.
"Secondly, there is plenty of proof of white tigers existing in the wild, but you keep denying with the explanation of being skeptical"
Why do you keep misquoting me?
I specifically said, white tigers do occur in the wild, hence Mohan.
I also specifically said there is no real proof of any white tiger making it to adulthood. If the Gaute or Peter have a clear image of the Tiger, I would be more than happy to look at. It would of been posted right here, btw.
"The overskepticism of old accounts bugs me. With the logic you applied to Corbett, the giant fossils of the Ngandong tiger (1933), Cromerian lion (1908), and American lion (1932) must be lies as the repsective naturalists only described the specimens in text. Our modern knowledge has been built off of these past naturalists. What's to say modern scientists don't fabricate or exaggerate data any less than they could have? I've seen more instances of modern data being skew than data from the last centuries."
Are you comparing fossils to the claim of a white tiger mother?
What kind of logic is that?
2ndly this is not about prehistoric cats, this is about modern white tigers, so one has nothing to do with the other.
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Finally, you question my love for cats, which is flat out unnecessary. Tell me, how does outbreeding the white gene hurt the population? You're taking an extreme approach and not listening to any of the evidence Guate or I discuss."
Please clarify for me, what evidence have You presented?
And 100% I think and tons of biologists, scientists etc.. all believe that human interference is absolutely wrong for any wild animal. The only time humans ever need to "assist" is after they have caused the damage.
-Poachers
-Oil Spill
-fire
-deforestation
etc..
Even when humans interfere to help injured cats like the lion who was injured by the buffalo, or the Machli being fed by the guards, that is wrong.
Nature is about survival of the fittest, not about helping specific cats that drive revenue. When machli dies, we will be sad, but there will be another tigress who will capture our hearts. Just like Charger or B2, or bamera and Waghdoh or any of the up and comers.
"Supporting Guate's final statement. Nature isn't recovering on its own, especially in today's situation. If you don't want the right people to interfere, then sit back and watch it all disappear."
Again, this is not true.
Ranthambhore has seen a baby boom this year, kodiak bears have been put on population control, GWS have made a huge comeback, Many whale species, infact, numbers for most animals put on the endangered species list, meaning Humans cannot hunt them (notice humans being the cause of the death) have made huge comebacks.
Every single animal that lives and thrived somewhere can still continue to do so if...................
They are protected from humans. That is the only thing they need. Wild fires will occur, flooding will occur etc... they will survive it all and thrive. Just like they have done for 100s of 1000s of years.