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(07-11-2014, 07:30 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: I think we are using the therm "pure" in different ways. I am using it to show that they are "Indian" tigers per se, that they have no other subspecies gene, which is correct. The Indian lineage have not Amur genes on it, while the American lineage do and for that, is useless for conservation.
You are using the therm "pure" to show genetic variance, and you are correct in the point that White tigers are worst than the Indian lions, specifically by the fact that the last ones came from several specimens and the white tigers came from one. However, this is not "purity" at all, this is genetic variance.
The example of the South China tigers is better, because they came from seven or eight specimens, and they have interbreed some many times that now ALL the South China tigers are like genetic twins. They case is the most similar to the white tigers, however as they have not breed with other subspecies, they are "pure". So, that is my point, Indian white tigers are highly inbreed, yes, but they have not mixed with other subspecies, so they are pure (P. t. tigris) although lacks genetic variance (highly inbreed).
Ask Peter about the hunted white tiger, I have not found it in my computer yet. Now, about the white tigress and her cubs, filmed by Jim Corbett, I have not found the video but I do have the pictures from the book. I will post them soon.
The only thing that I disagree with is that you are under the assumption that every single white tiger is mixed in the states.
The thing is, you cannot prove that, nobody can, and the fact that pure bred bengal tigers where brought to the states, also raise possible questions.
I see what youre saying about our interpretations of "pure" being different. I believe in "pure" meaning that nature had everything to do with it. The minute a human being puts his hands on something, that is forever changed or unpure. The existance of white tigers in nature would occur through unbelievably huge odds and then that animal surviving till adulthood would be even more astronomical. These animals may be "bengals" but they are still man made, inbred, deformed bengals. I just don't conisider them as a pure species.