Bear Size ~

[Pckts]

My thoughts on the information posted...
First, this

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If the heaviest confirmed Bear for this excursion was 610kg and multiple bears were unable to be weighed since the helicopter couldn't lift them, I see the claim of 800kg as very reasonable and on the conservative side.
A helicopters capabilities are well known and I'm sure they used a reasonable deduction to get to that estimate.




In regards to Dubs and the claim of weighing equipment and measurements..

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We know the bear has been weighed, if it is accepted by Guinness book of world records, the weight must of been recorded for it to be published. We also see here that multiple bears have also been weighed that reach near that size as well.
While the measurement of the stuffed bear is used, it obviously isn't the exact measurement but its still something.
I'm sure the measurements and scale used are available somewhere but we may not have access to it.

Do we hold all kodiaks to the same standard?
"The greatest weight recorded for a Kodiak bear in the wild is 1656 lb 751 kg for a male shot at English Bay. Kodiak Island in 1894 by J C Tolman. The stretched skin (pegged to the side of a cabin on a frame and then weighted with rocks at the bottom edge for maximum effect) measured 13 ft 6in 4-12m from the tip of the nose to the root of the tail, and the hindfoot was 18in 46cm long (Phillips-Wolley. 1894)."

Do we know how this bear was weighed, do we know its body dimensions?
What about any other Kodiaks with in the claimed weight range?



I see the same issue with big cats, the world record tiger and lion have no body dimensions and both were weighed on scales not designed for big cats but assumed to be correct since calibration was allegedly utilized.
Do we simply deny them since we don't know these measurements?
Do we claim DR. Habib's weights for Jai, Gabbar, Bittu, Choti Tara etc are unusable since they will not publish the body dimensions or results?

My point is this, it is a bit of a cherry picking mentality to deny one weight if it doesn't meet a certain individuals standards, not that the individual doesn't have a point but in fairness, the individual isn't at liberty to deny it if they don't hold any experience in the subject being discussed. If Sunquist came out and said that he doesn't believe the world record lion or tiger meet the standards and explains his standpoint, that is one thing, but for us to claim it is another.

This isn't an attack on ANY individual here, please don't take it as such, this is just stating my stance on the subject. Reply