Are Tigers 'Brainier' Than Lions?

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(06-25-2014, 02:13 AM)'Apollyon' Wrote: My 'criteria' is not my opinion. i'm asking for objective methods to measure intelligence between two animals. Trainers are providing their opinions based upon either observations of behaviour or speculation about what is required in the wild in terms of intelligence. However, they do not provide any evidence that could be understood as objective. They are entitled to their opinions and they may well be correct. But, until there are fair studies that can be described as objective and a fair assessment of intelligence we are left with opinions.

Re: Leopard. One would think that NOT being the Apex predator might require greater intelligence. Not only does the Leopard deal with the same environment as the Tiger, but it must also be cognizant of the whereabouts of the Tiger at all times. That, and other larger dangerous animals that the Tiger only has to pay limited attention to.

 

What methods?
What methods have you seen that would please you in admitting that tigers or smarter or not?
They sure do provide evidence, Dr. Antle speaking of tigers and lions, watching tigers actually analize surroundings, learning tricks or commands etc...
I don't know why you are disregarding expert opinions and eye witness accounts? Its not like you are going to get a Lion and Tiger to take the SAT's, so what would please you enough to make a statement on either side?
I mean, you have eye witness accounts and opinions, scientific fact on Brain size, so not sure what you're looking for.

Now onto the leopard, mine was simply a theory, there are many factors that could play in to why a leopard has the same sized brain as a lion in terms of relative to body size.
Once again, age of species, two completely different sub species, different roles in their environments, etc...
Also, the leopard plays the same role in either Africa or India.
2nd largest cat, must stay in the trees to survive and keep prey, must avoid larger predatory cats etc... All of which probably require the same amount of brain power. Lastly, the tiger is a completely different sub species from the remaining 3. Older, different lineage etc. It is the most different animal of the Panthera and adaptions always differ in any sub species, especially ones that are much older than others.

I think that no matter what, you are not going to change your mind. While you can be speculative all you want, just remember, you are offering up nothing that backs the lions being smarter than the Tiger, just disagreeing with actual evidence and opinions. That is all I will say about it.
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