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(11-03-2024, 08:07 PM)Mapokser Wrote: Wow, Ndhzengas chased the Mantimahles? And in Mantimahle-ish territory? ( certainly not Ndhzenga territory ).
People were hyping Mantimahle's as possibly the strongest duo where I was saying we don't know much about them and PCM were also seen in the same way until they met a strong duo.
I guess everybody may look like the strongest while dealing with nomads, reason why we should judge more based on how they interact with other dominant males.
Anyway, to think back in the day I didn't thought the Ndhzenga duo was very strong as I thought their strength was mostly in numbers and they had not had the opportunity to show how they perform in even numbers.
But here we are, they've made all Mantimahle sons run lol, from PCM to Nkhulu to Mantimahle jrs.
I actually shouldn't be surprised considering how Gijimas seems to respect them and I always thought Gijimas were the strongest.
For me it was the feeling/vibe I got from them, rather than anything they had specifically done. They gave the impression of being lions that you don't want to mess with.
But I guess the mean Mantimahtle stare didn't phase the Ndzengas. Mala Mala is prime territory, and tough to hold, and there must be a reason they've successfully held onto it for this long. I guess they've got that something that's a little harder to identify. Whatever it is, other duos seem reluctant to mess with them.
I do not understand what is hard to identify? A lot of comments I had read is the size and numbers of male lions. Ndhzenga are prime experienced lions. Also the manes the better and the nicer the manes; it can show the status of a male lion. Ndhzenga male lions have black manes and physically they look fit. Ndhzenga male lion have very black manes they look like strong male lions.
Males in their prime. Experienced. Full, black manes. Physically fit and look strong. You haven't mentioned anything that the Mantimahtle males don't have. Plus the latter are probably bigger. That's what I mean. There must be something about the Ndzengas that isn't the obvious things like all mentioned above.
Hi I was actually going to say; the Mantimahatle male lions. I see the Mantimahatle like the Ndhzenga male lions. Experienced and very black manes also beautiful male lions. Only difference is size, Mantimahatle male lions are 9 years of age? Ndhzenga male lions when fighting how much different can it be? They are strong male lions. another thing I am not an expert, is seeing seems male lions more brothers more experienced more confident when once they have cubs and with lionesses. Ndhzenga male lions have been together.
Absolutely. The Ndzengas, Mantimahtles, Gijimas, PCs... it's impossible to say who would win in an actual fight. All very fit, healthy, aggressive males. The fact that actual fights don't seem to happen would suggest they all sense they're pretty evenly matched. As for the Mantimahtle's age, they might be a bit younger than the Ndzengas (8), but don't quote me on that.
not sure of the age, but if the plain camp male lions are younger than the Mantimahtles; they must be at least nine years of age. I have read they are the older lions to the plain camp male lions. I get the feeling they are a bit older than the Ndhzenga male lions. Might be the same age. I read the other comment. Observing the Ndhzenga male lions roars it is strong confident. I remember I saw a video of the Ndhzenga male lions at 8 years of age roaring. Roars were strong and loud. Strength and energy was in roaring by Ndhzenga male lions. they did not seem worried and were wanted to be heard. Roars from Ndhzenga male lions were warning signs from observing, and from roaring wanted to show strength. I think they have the very best roars. Roars looked to me like they were saying I am here can you hear; they wanted to be heard. Just many strong lions.