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(10-29-2024, 08:29 AM)KM600 Wrote: Regardless of how it died, IF it died, another PCM cub dead in the space of a week.. I don’t really have the energy rn to go into this but I think u all know what I’m trying to hint. No stability whatsoever.
Blaming PCMs is getting out of hand..now we are gona blame PCMs if leopard killed Tsalala cub?
Male lions duty is not to he 24/7 with the pride and guard cubs from every threat.
Recently they spend a lot of time with Ximhungwes and Tsalalas, as for Mhangenis, we know they dont hang with them for almost half a year now.
PCMs didnt lost 1 cub to rival/nomadic males.
I don't know that PCMs have NEVER lost a cub to rival/nomadic males, but I do want to make a point about the ways the PCMs have been regarded online.
I've found myself defending them on numerous occasions, because I don't exactly understand what the expectations of them are. They are male lions in their prime - they SHOULD be looking to reproduce as much as possible. And latching onto a single pride in the west doesn't make sense as each pride is just too small to satisfy this short window for them to make the most out of their prime. Now, bear in mind I think they overreached by attempting to take over the Nkuhuma pride. But I think pinning the blame on them for Tsalala's cubs' deaths because there's a lack of "stability" is bordering on ridiculous. There are fifty different ways that cub could have been lost, it's the African bush. This period of relative stability across the Western, Central, and Southern Sabi Sands has caused everyone to forget how difficult it is to raise cubs to adulthood, even without the threat of male lions.
By all means, criticise them for abandoning the Mangheni pride. I did feel angry when they gave up on visiting them. But their recent loss of a Mangheni cub 10 during the Ximungwe-Mangheni skirmish was not definitely preventable by them - a little knowledge of lion dynamics in the region shows that clashes between prides are regular and fierce, that's just the nature of a territory that has fences on three sides. And everyone is speculating so much about how Tsalala has lost her cubs without any discussion of what actually happened. And the default response is to blame the PCMs - oh the PCMs weren't there to drive the NK Breakaways away (which we don't even KNOW happened), or oh the PCM definitely killed one cub. The sad thing is that if a similar thing happened to any of the prides under the Gijimas or the Ndhzengas, I don't think the blame would be pinned on them. I do think the PCMs thus far have not been as vigilant as the two aforementioned coalitions, but please... this recurring attack on them is reaching absurd levels. This forum is surely better than that.
If someone does prove that they killed the cub, then they deserve to be blamed. But until someone can conclusively prove this very unlikely scenario, I'm not sure why they are catching flak for this.