Other male lion coalitions from Masai Mara

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(10-24-2024, 11:13 PM)KM600 Wrote: I agree with the point that maybe these things are being done as they are under heavy pressure from their lions being poached, but at the same time they don’t even seem to care about that. We got a report about them sending rangers out looking for Olobor even after numerous sources confirmed he was speared to death all because they didn’t want to be honest and admit the problems they’re having with HWC. 
In terms of them doing it for the lion population, it seems pretty stable to me, especially in the area where this took place. I mean if u look around the surrounding area, u have 7 Topi subadult males, 5 Rongai subadult males, 3 (now 2 Paradise boys - heard there could be 5 altogether but 3 seemed to have split off) 6 Fig Tree subadult males and u still have so many more nomads too. One death isn’t going to change the fact that so many more of these males are going to die, especially with this many big upcoming coalitions in close proximity, albeit a lot of them aren’t ready to challenge yet, but they eventually will.

Exactly what I am saying. IF poaching is causing the numbers to be lower than they should be, then the simple solution is to enforce the laws that already exist. Though, as you mentioned, I am not sure we are at that point yet. However, in the Mara, they seem to have zero interest in that, instead choosing to allow the humans to encroach upon the lions territory, and then allowing them to kill them with impunity. It is disgusting, and is exactly why any time anyone asks me where they should go, if planning a safari, I always tell them to stay away from the Mara, at all costs. The only thing that will get them to change their corrupted stance, is for the tourism to cease, people to stop visiting the area. I guarantee you they will then change their current positions.

I do not take the position that the lions should be put before the people who live near them, but there is a way that they can coexist, as has been proven for decades. It is only recently when the corrupt officials in that area have decided to stop enforcing the laws, and to allow the people to enter into the park however they please, and then to kill the wildlife that lives there by claiming they are getting too close. Stop them from walking their cows into the park to graze, and if they continue, lock them up, and it will stop.

What I believe is happening, in regards to these human interventions into a natural process is people who are so arrogant as to actually believe it is OK to insert themselves into this process. I saw another video (I can share it here, if anyone is interested), just recently, a mother leopard protecting her two cubs, actually fights with a lioness who was approaching their den. The size difference was remarkable, but she was going to protect her cubs at any cost. As the fight is happening and the leopard is clearly losing, sitting inside of the safari truck is a woman, who can clearly be heard saying "I don't like this", as if that even plays into what is happening, she then asks the guide "Can't you scare them?", and then the kicker of it all, she literally tries to growl/roar, at the fighting cats. I believe such people have been allowed to insert themselves into these guide reserves/companies, and are now trying to affect the natural order of things in the wild, by inserting themselves and their feelings. Reply