Lions of Sabi Sands

[Potato]

(08-26-2024, 08:53 PM)Mapokser Wrote: I agree with KM600, I think they were just enjoying a meal and chasing Tumbela off to defend their territory and food, it's not like they seek the Manghenis to pay a visit like they do with Ximhungwe, regardless of food involved.

Still this was undoubtedly a good thing, perhaps if Othawas come into estrus to get PCM to stick to the West and Manghenis stay closer to PCM western territory, they can get some more protection than lately.

@Potato I agree that there will probably be no serious clash between Ndhzengas and PCM, I'd even be surprised if they have another meeting in the near future, both have huge territories already.

But I disagree that Ndhzengas are just decent and PCM much more formidable to a point they could oust them with ease or mid diff. I share the same opinion of Londolozi, PCM looked to be more formidable, being bigger, more aggressive and what not, but Ndhzengas matched them and won their clash, they chased them off, this is something the PCM have never done, beating a prime territorial duo. Ndhzengas have done that against PCM and BDM, and recently their roars made 3 Nkhulu retreat.

If serious competition between them happens 2 years from now like you speculate then things may indeed change as Ndhzengas will be old, but if this happens the Ndhzenga legacy will be secure already so a takeover by PCM or any other won't be a bad thing, luckily.

I dissagree with interpretation that Ndzengas defeated Plain Camp males. In fact I wouldn't even call that confrontation. That was just a border dispute. Both parties roared a bit and after a while each side went their separate ways. At this point it doesn't seem like PC males intend to challange Ndzengas for anythink and symmetrically doesn't seem like Ndzengas intend to challange PC males over anythink. We could say Ndzengas defeated PC males if for example Ndzengas would beat PC males and stole their kill or some females. In thios case however it was just meaningless  encounter with no winner and no prize.

Also you say Ndzengas defeated Black Dams. Ndzengas cought one of the Black Dams and mauled him, but in another encounter also BD males cought one of the Ndzengas. In those encounters Black Dam male took worst injures and therefore we could say Ndzengas seemd to be stronger duo, but it wasn't like Ndzengas totally dominated Black Dams. Reply