There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
Lip Scar was definitly lions. The final reports about the state his body was found in leaves little room for other interpretations.
While there is no evidence directly pointing to the PCmales. They are the most likely suspect due to being seen pretty closeby at the point.
S8s death is a bit more of a mystery as the illness progressed very rapidly. A buffalo horn piercing the bowels is a strong contender. But so is everything else that could cause such damage. Lions however typically dont cause this type of damage, so unless the peritonitis is unrelated, I am willing to rule that out.
The advantage these two cases had is that we actually have a body to study. (Which is why I am not a fan of withelding such information out of respect for the lion and all that nonsense). In the BDM case, he just disapeared. He may still be around somewhere, but the behavoir of the other BDM suggests he has zero hope of a reunion so the signs are not optimistic. He is either death, or in such state his partner was forced to abandon him.
Again the PCmales are the core suspects due to showing up with some severe injuries later. But ultimately, like with many fights, we are unlikely to ever find out his final fate.