Lions of Sabi Sands

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(05-30-2024, 10:29 AM)sik94 Wrote:

(05-30-2024, 01:46 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: And when you have a lot of males in it, competition is fierce, strongest males get more "goods", while weakest are left with scraps.

Well that usually happens when they are sick or in a weakened state. Even the lowest ranked members aren't shy when there's food on the table if they are healthy ofcourse, and these dominance heirarchies aren't that rigid either so that some members will always get the shorter end of the stick. Add injuries and current condition to that and there are even more variables at play, I get your general point but it's a little oversimplifying it. 

(05-30-2024, 01:46 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Then weaker ones "figure" out that they might have a lot more opportunities if they just leave or split. Or stronger ones to have even more, without their brothers bothering them.

That would be true if it were always the weaker ones that choose to leave everytime and I don't think that's true at all. The weaker ones are usually too submissive to make a move like that, usually It's one of the more dominant males with usually good leadership qualities that choose to split and a couple others who were littermates or closer in age tag along. Mr. T and KT are the perfect example of this, and so were the Southern Matimbas. Mr. T and Hairybelly were born leaders while KT and Ginger were the ultimate right hands for them, KT was a littermate while Ginger and Hairybelly were always close. The Southern BDMs are definitely an interesting case, I think this is more of a Kambulas and maybe also the Northern and Southern Avocas situation. The 6 BDMs, Avocas,  and the 6 Kambulas were never territorial as a 6 member coalition, they never had to deal with the complexities of fighting for resources within a territorial coalition that might lead to a split. I think the southern BDMs, Northern Avocas, and the Northern Kambulas were younger than the rest and also late bloomers(especially in the case of the southern BDMs and the Northern Kambulas). I think they were never truly bonded as a coalition and that's why the splits happened even before they were anywhere near being territorial.

Hi I would say they are just younger. The older brothers in a coalition are more likely stronger. Makulu was I think about 4 years older than Mr.T and Kinky Tail. Then their other brothers were a few months older almost a year older I think. I remember reading the Matimba male lions split, because they were eventually far apart from each other. I think the older Matimba would spend time with the Southern Matimbas and another Northern Matimba. I read in a comment before that the Southern Matimba male lions may have been the older brothers of the Northern Matimbas. Reply