Amur Tigers

[peter]

(02-07-2024, 01:35 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Can we please drop this fighting and get back on topic.

ALL 

The job of every member of Wildfact is to find good info and to add reliable sources. What other members do with the info posted, is up to them. Information can be discussed, but remember a discussion should be based on a respectful exchange of arguments. The aim of a discussion is to answer a question, not something else.    

PC 

You're one of the few who saw wild jaguars, lions and tigers in their natural habitat. You posted extensively about your experiences. Your posts were well written, accurate and appreciated. This, however, doesn't mean the information you collected can be extended to all wild jaguars, lions and tigers. If there's one thing that emerged from countless observations and studies, it's the notion that apex predators are opportunistic individuals able to adapt to the conditions they face. Members of forums often focus on the fysical abilities of big cats, but the abilities developed in the top floor are as interesting, if not more so. 

Using the info you collected, you could decide for, say, a hypothesis and try to find info enabling you to get to a conclusion. For some reason, you decided against it and opted for interaction. Although you know not one of the discussions you joined produced something of interest, you didn't change your policy. The question is why.   

From a distance, I'd say you lost your interest in posting. If so, the advice is to take a break and read a few good books. Whatever you decide, don't continue in the way you do.   

Apex

It's a fact you found new information about the way tigers and bears interact in the Russian Far East. Your effort resulted in an invitation to post in the tiger extinction thread. That thread enables you to reach a small crowd. Most of your contributions are appreciated, but most isnt all. I'm in particular referring to posts in which you address those involved in severe preference. Posts of his nature do not fit the thread. That's still apart of countless other problems and rule violations. You know, as I told you more than once. Although you said you would take the advice serious, you still use every opportunity to enter a discussion. Ask yourslf why that is.  

As to tigers and bears in the Russian Far East. Although the culture seems to be different in the RFE (meaning tigers hunt bears more often than in southeastern Asia), tigers and brown bears seem to coexist in most districts. In fact, both seem to thrive. For (indirect) confirmation, watch the videos recently posted at You Tube. Not seldom, you'll see tigers and bears walking the same trail only minutes apart. 

Serious confrontations between brown bears and tigers seem to be a result of circumstances, individuality and, perhaps, chance. Adult males of both species compete, but there's a big difference between competitors and 'mortal enemies'. Although adult male brown bears are taller and more robust (heavier), tigers have advantages in other departments. All in all, one, like bears and tigers, could conclude they roughly compare.  

My advice is to drop the focus on males and to move to other aspects of the ecology of tigers and brown bears. There's a lot to learn. Whatever you do, stay away from absolute statements and everything else suggesting you could be an expert. And when members discuss your posts, let it be.              

To conclude

In spite of the rules, discussions still erupt at regular intervals. Not seldom, interactions of this nature have a negative effect on members, mods and readers. Duco isn't the only one who's had enough.  

This is the last time I invested time in fixing a problem that could have been avoided. Meaning we're done with those using the credit they have to do as they please. From now on, the rules will be applied no matter what. 

This post is a warning. The advice to both members mentioned in this post is to take a break from posting. The proposal is at least two weeks. More than enough time to read a new article. I recommend 'Phenotypic plasticity determines differences between the skulls of tigers from mainland Asia' (Cooper et al., 2022). It has a dataset.  

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