There is a world somewhere between reality and fiction. Although ignored by many, it is very real and so are those living in it. This forum is about the natural world. Here, wild animals will be heard and respected. The forum offers a glimpse into an unknown world as well as a room with a view on the present and the future. Anyone able to speak on behalf of those living in the emerald forest and the deep blue sea is invited to join.
(09-15-2023, 01:55 AM)BA0701 Wrote: someone will always get unhappy with their share of the spoils
I disagree with this pov. I don't think this is ever the reason for a split. As a lion you'll always have to fight for your part of the kill, that's just part of life. There's no such thing as being 'unhappy' about it, the bigger the coalition the more they will have to hunt. Anything they catch will be gone within minutes and all of them would be equally motivated to make a second kill moments later. The only time I see this being an issue is when a member is sick or injured and isn't in a condition to fight for his share at the dinner table.
Legit question, not an argument or debate, as unfortunately we will never really know which of us is right, I am just looking for clarification. If I am understanding you correctly, you don't believe a lion can feel happiness/unhappiness, but you do think that they are capable of consciously thinking far enough in advance to understand that due to numbers they will have to hunt more often, that they are able to understand that more mouths will require more hunts?
I'm not saying you're wrong, as I believe these animals are far more intelligent than many of us would think, and I agree partially, it may be due to one cat being dominated at kills regularly, resulting in less to eat, but that being the case it comes back to my original comment about happiness. One can certainly not be happy when one is being bashed about at every meal. Happy is not meant in the literal sense, though I believe they are capable of such emotions just like our pet cats and dogs demonstrate in a daily basis, but happy in the form of their being content. I'd also say that there is a distinct difference in normal competition at a kill, and being dominated at one, the way that Mr T was dominated at the buffalo kill, and made to stay several yards back, is very different from getting a smack when trying to take a bite.
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