Plains Camp males

[Mapokser]

(09-02-2023, 01:29 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(09-02-2023, 12:57 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 Comparison with NK works because NK matched Nhenha who was bigger in comparison to bigger Kambula than Amahle is to probably overall Kambulas, there's a photo with an unknown Kambula where she's taller.

One Londolozi ranger said Nhenha and PCM were a bit bigger than Amahle and another one seems to think PCM ( and Gijimas ) are also much bigger. Which is also worth mentioning.

Ok, Nhenha is prob a bit taller then Amahle i agree, but height is not only factor for size, with Amahles mane and bulkines i wouldnt be suprised he looks close in frame to Nhenha or NK.

(09-02-2023, 12:57 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @NLAL11 NK was indeed potentially taller, but PCM swallowed NK in length and overall bulkiness/frame. Weight wise it was clear PCM would weight much more.

2 problems with this sighting:

1. 2 PCMs have much larger mane, which brings a lot to frame size

2. 2 PCMs are almost full bellied while NK is empty and looks more thiner then usual

Mass difference is noticable between a lion who eated recently + has full belly, or male who didnt eat for few days and has empty belly.

Many factors came to play, lions are not always in same condition and same mass.

I agree that PCMs are prob a bit bigger then NK, but NK in peak condition + full belly + big mane like them and he is prob very close in frame to them.

1- Does mane even blind our persception that much when we have something to compare as a reference? NK was only thought to be smaller than Nhenha before they joined up, once they were seen in the same vids, we saw they were equal. Another example, Shaka Mbiri has similar mane to NK, but everybody says he is huge and not much smaller than his big-maned brother.

2- PCM didn't had a full belly, just a partial stomach content, far from full. Not to say, PCM had just turned 5, while NK was 6+ already. According to the chart on age/weight, the average lion goes from 184kg when he turns 5 to 188kg when he turns 6, entering his absolute prime, so while it doesn't make a big difference, PCM likely gained a few kg in the last year to make up for the stomach content they had when comparing to NK.

A full stomach looks like this, the lion can barely move:

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3- Also, one thing we gotta consider is that while some frames are "perfect", in some others NK is much closer to the camera, but even then he didn't manage to match even the smaller PCM who not only is shorter than his brother:

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And noticeably thinner:

Smaller PCM:

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Bigger PCM:

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There's a considerable difference between NK and smaller PCM, and another considerable difference between smaller PCM and his bigger brother Reply