Comparing Cats: A Discussion of Similarities & Differences

[Pckts]

(12-29-2022, 11:45 PM)I’m Luipaard Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 11:15 PM)Pckts Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 10:47 PM)Luipaard Wrote:

(12-29-2022, 09:50 PM)Pckts Wrote: I'm sure he's seen far more than 100s throughout his life, that's being conservative. 

This discussion reminds of one that we had in the past. It all started with that Instagram post of Dutoit where he's showcasing a Pantanal jaguaress that according to him weighed "as much & if not more than the biggest of male leopards" he has ever seen.

This made you believe that the biggest Pantanal jaguaresses are bigger than the biggest male leopards, wasn't it? The question here is which are these biggest male leopards that Dutoit has seen and from where. I'm really interested in getting to know how this jaguaress compares or possibly even bests the biggest male leopards Dutoit has ever seen.

Have you ever got in touch with him? If so, could you ask him specifically who the biggest male leopards are he has ever seen?

Quote:This made you believe that the biggest Pantanal jaguaresses are bigger than the biggest male leopards, wasn't it?

No the verified measurements of both proved that.

But we both received confirmation of the 115kg Persian male leopard from wildlife veterinarian Iman Memarian? Another member received yet another voice message of Iman Memarian where it is stated that they found him near another dead animal. So he likely feasted on it therefore the 115kg figure is one where he had stomach content. His weight then dropped to 105kg which means he was by then (close to) empty. Later it dropped further to 95-98kg because he refused to eat and had a terrible health condition. Still no jaguaress, Pantanal or not, has ever attained this size of 115kg (full/gorged) or 105kg. The biggest Pantanal jaguaresses aren't bigger than the biggest male leopards.

Can you just ask Marlon Dutoit though?

“It dropped, he dropped” none of that matters. You know where I stand on that. The fact is that female Pantanal Jaguars average more and hit higher weights more often with far less total individuals measured. Which means the odds of seeing a Female Pantanal jag 80-100kg is higher than the odds of seeing a Leopard from any location at the same weight.

I don’t need to ask Marlon, hes mentioned it on 2 different occasions.
Not to mention that he’s seen far fewer Jaguars compared to Leopards and yet he still feels the need to talk about it. He also uses words like “dwarf” which is indicative of a large size discrepancy.

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