Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

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(12-02-2022, 05:17 AM)ZigZak Wrote:

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(11-30-2022, 03:13 AM)Mapokser Wrote:

(11-30-2022, 12:14 AM)ZigZak Wrote:

(11-29-2022, 09:38 PM)Mapokser Wrote: @ZigZak wasn't BDM's skull the third largest, not the largest?

As i know BDM Skull must be the largest. Because as i know the biggest lion skull ever had a score of 26.5 inches and that comes from Kirbies Lion. However BDM had a skull score of 28 inches following wards protocol. I honestly think he had a skull length of c.430 mm and a zogomatic width of c.280 mm.

Who is this "Kirbies lion" you talk about? I heard soemone saying BDM's skull is bigger than the skull of the 272kg Kenya lion, is this true? I wouldn't be surprised if BDM was even bigger, I think he's the most impressive cat I've ever seen.

The Kenyan Lions skull only scored 25.7'' and Kirby's largest Lion he estimated to be 500lbs while it was his 2nd largest Lion who's skull was the longest. Skull size isn't a direct correlation to body weight but obviously a large skull generally means a large cat. 
The Kenyan Lion was measured by Yamguchi using correct protocol, who know's about the others mentioned.

Skull size has a very strong correlation with body size. Thus it should have also a very strong correlation with body mass if we assume all animals live under same circumstances, which is the reason why it had a good correlation with captive lions.

This is subjective. Large Skulls generally equal Large Cats. Is this the case always?
No
Like I've provided, the largest skulls don't always belong to the largest cats. This is the case for any big cat. 
Hamilton noted it

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The same is shown in Almeida's book with Jaguars, with his 6 heaviest jaguars ranking no better than 10th on his skull scoring list out of 57 males. 

It's never cut and dry, each cat may show a different positive correlation to body length, shoulder height, skull size, chest girth etc.
To paint the clearest picture you need as many of the factors mentioned as possible as well as the protocol used to obtain them.

I never said it is always the case. But the correlation is very strong. Head Length and Width had a very strong correlation with Body Length and also Body Weight. 

You may read the publication of Erasmus et al, 2008.

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You're talking about absolute minimal correlation differences. It'll always come down to a combination of each factor which is why it's necessary to have as much data as necessary before making assumptions. Reply