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(11-18-2022, 02:16 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Only information I can find here on WF is that they ousted the male Dozie and took over Manyeleti from him in 2010. Same Dozie who was the dominant male of the Nkuhuma Pride in Djuma with his partner Blondie.
I found this info, by Darren Donovan :
"The first time someone heard of Matimbas was in Manyeleti 6 of them in March 16, 2010. By the time, we have properly known them, they have already started pushing the dominant Males of the area. And in oct 10 2010, they took over their first territory when they attacked and ousted the dominant Male Dozie of the area."
Also, Old Skybeds came into Ngala in 2006, so they cant be born before that.
HB was one of the youngest, photo of them from June 2011 at Nkorho :
(SlitNose, Ndunha, HB, not sure who is the last on the right)
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Look how young HB looks, thats not 5 yrs old male, and HB has top genes, he couldnt be underdeveloped like that at 5 yrs of age, he barely has mane on top of his head, even current NK male, who prob had most underdeveloped mane compared to age, had more mane at 5 yrs then this..
HB is almost certaintly born from late 2006/early 2007 onwards, maybe even up to mid 2017, and rest of Matimbas are prob not older then mid-late 2006 either.