Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers

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(10-07-2022, 08:02 PM)Orpadan Wrote:

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(10-07-2022, 05:24 PM)Pantherinae Wrote: Very interesting, now finally we have actual measurments of Wagdoh. the interesting here is the weight, as far as I know dead and bloated animals are not heavier they just look that way. So it won’t affect the weight, but it can however affect the measurments….  

Since the measurments does not suggest a 270 kg cat especially one that old. Does it even say 270 kg? I first read 240 kg, then 210 kg… I those who say it’s 270 kg, but is that 100% certain?  if that is the case he probably had a lot of fat on him. Still a very impressive male. 
I think we just need to get more info on this before we conclude with anything.

The measurements make sense for that weight. A Tiger with 208cm head body length in straight line can surpass 280kg. And yes, 270kg is confirmed. Khan85 has confirmed it from the official who sent him this document.

And bloating can’t really affect the bodylength by more than 1cm and the bodylength is the key here. And Wagdoh was not excessively fat either. He had normal levels of bodyfat.

In the video below, you can see that his carcass doesn’t look particularly fat. In fact, looks quite normal.

https://youtu.be/4MsNA8GofLA

The bloating thing doesn't really affect the body length you're right. but We need to also make it clear what protocols were used for his body length measurments. But the chest measurment is affected by the bloating and puffiness though. His normal chest would have been about 130cm. In the paper they do lebel him as fat. Also Khan85 needs to directly ask them again and send a ss here so we can be sure what number they actually wrote...was it 210? 240? 270?.

Where does the document say that he was fat? All I can see in the document is that his carcass was putrefactioned and bloated due to the process of decomposition. We must point out that there’s a big difference between swelling due to putrefaction and being straight up ‘fat’.

As for his chest girth, chest girth alone without bodylength is not the best way to estimate weight. Bodylength has better correlation with weight and also, he was so old that his chest girth likely would’ve shrunk due to old age. We should focus more on bodylength than chest girth.

And I also sent you a video of his carcass on the day of his death. You can see in that video that he was not fat at all. Please see that also.

And I think he was measured in straight line because that is the only method that makes sense. If he was measured over the curves then his straight length would be about 197cm which does not add up with his weight.

208cm in straight line makes perfect sense since he weighed 270kg. And in his prime, he would’ve weighed even more.

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it clearly indicates that he was fat in the paper.

Why do you not see the video I sent you? That video was probably taken on the same day when Wagdoh was weighed or at least around the same time. You can clearly see Wagdoh’s body from all angles in that video.

He does not look fat in the clip. He’s normal and you can clearly see that in the video but you keep ignoring that part. Please check that for once as well.

And ‘fat’ can also mean bulky. He was still fairly bulky especially for a Tiger his age. And he also looked puffed up from the decomposition which also may have caused him to look bulky (‘fat’).

So your pretty much telling me to be an expert when the experts themselves have clearly labelled him as fat.

No, I’m telling you to use your device, your eyes and a little bit of common sense.

You are on this forum discussing about these animals and somewhat contributing so I’m sure you must be smart enough to tell whether an animal is fat or not by looking at it from different angles. You are not even making a valid excuse here. Reply