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@Polar
I'm going to refute a few points you made and tell why 

"Almost all carnivores tend to show their discomfort almost instantly when bothered, but to what extent, that depends on the species. Beatty, Roth, and other animal trainers are not to be taken so seriously with their opinions, since they really don't know about the wild states of these animals."


First issue is the fact that Louis Roth received many of his animals straight from the wild, Tigers From "bengal" polar bears straight from the wild, Lions from Africa

Hans Brick Sailed on a whaling vessel, Trapped Lions in Africa, Hunted tigers in India etc.

Many other big cat trainers all have many years outside of home where they would travel to foreign lands to capture these animals or participate in hunts in the wild.

This was a right of passage for tons of trainers, especially Europeans.

Also, the fact that these people have dealt with these animals their entire lives puts more stock in their opinions than the novice, that is for sure.

"Overheated and exhausted at higher weights in hot-climate captive areas."

Actually, Polar bears do quite well in high temps, obviously not desert conditions but high temps don't bother them, Hans Brick Specifically states how amazed he was that the bears seemed to prefer warm water as to cold and never seemed to overheat when temps got high.


"Bears and cats in captivity, even given the fattest foods ever with minimal excercise, would still be (not sure about looks, though, for bears) quite muscular for their weight, yet just a tad fatter than if they were in the wild. The reason why they can still be extremely muscular even if given minimal exercise is because the genes are already set for them over millions of years as carnivores to actively hunt food."

This is subjective, the usage of "tad" can be very different, we all have seen extremely obese captive bears and cats which you would never see the likes of in the wild.
In regards to "genes," this again is only one factor, genetics are a small part of whats needed to maintain a healthy condition. You need proper diet, exercise and mental health. An animal with the best genetics in the world who lays around and never gets to truly work its organs and muscles out will never be what their wild counter part is. They will carry more fat and have less muscle mass, less stamina etc.
The first thing the body burns is fat, naturally a bear or cat in the wild will burn fat much faster all the while building muscle mass and increasing stamina to oxygenate those muscles. A captive bear or cat will have higher body fat since their DEI will be relatively low and in turn their muscle mass will be low since they never are able to use them to their full capacity on a daily basis all the while increasing their fat since they aren't burning it in the way a wild animal would. Reply