Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers

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(07-01-2022, 12:25 AM)Drippy Wrote: What the biggest chest girth of of a tiger and totally length and head to body length and you've heard volkel the lion has a chest ofof 148cm and total length of 317cm and head to body length weight would prob be around 270kg+, just curious have any tiger reached such a great size

Using only scientific records, the biggest chest girth for a tiger is of 154 cm for tiger P-111 from Panna (Kumar, 2022), bigger than any lion in hunting or scientific record (and there is an even bigger tiger, by the way). As @Pckts explained to you, the lions from Hobatere were measured along the curves from the tip of the frontal teeth along every single curve in the body, which greatelly increase the real body dimentions to exagerated levels. In this case, while Volkel (HPL-2) was recorded at 228 cm in head-body, it was probably much less than that, maybe just a little over the 200 cm. About lion HPL-10 "Leo", it was is ridiculously exagerated, check this comparative image of him and the tiger M-102 "Dakre" from Nepal:

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Check that the tiger measured 185 cm in head-body "straight" and weighed 200 kg and look bigger than the suppoustly record lion (people on the tiger side were scaled smaller than the man in the lion size, so the difference, in favor of the tiger, could be bigger). The lion "Leo" was recorded as a young adult, just like the tiger "Dakre". Now you can see that those measurements from this lion (247 cm in head-body and 147 cm in shoulder height, as big as a cave "lion") are obviously incorrect. About its weight of 213 kg, that obviously include stomach content, and you can see in its huge belly in the picture, which is about the same (maybe slightly bigger) than that of the tiger, which already include 14-19 kg of meat, and this suggest that the lion had the same amount in its belly.

There is no estimation of weight about "Volkel", no expert has ever estimated that lion at 270 kg, that is for sure, for example Smuts (1980) recorded a maximum chest girth of 139 cm from Rodhesia but its maximum weight was of about 216 kg "not adjusted", so a big chest girth is not guarantee if a huge weight, even when statistically there is a good correlation between them. Other thing, the recorded weights from all the lions at Hobatere are not 100% reliable as they include stomach content, check these images:

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Check the huge belly in these specimens, that explain why they recorded weights surpass the regular ranges in other areas of Southern Africa. Reply