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(05-17-2022, 12:12 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: For male coalitions is normal to give them different name when 2 or more males link together, or name coalition with brothers different name, because they have no connections with their natal pride anymore.
No we name them that way because it is easier to give them single name insteed of each time naming the pride they came from (so Mongowane is easier than all the time calling them "Birmingham and Torchwood male) and does not ditch their origins (that is why they get new separate name "Mongowane" insteed of calling them both "Birmingham males" or "Torchwood males" because for whatever reason we think one male in the coalition is more important than the other.
(05-17-2022, 12:12 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Ximhungwe female IS Ximhungwe pride, Gingerella is Othawas breakaway/outcast, Ximhungwe definitely has "stronger" claim here.
If for example Ximhungwe linked with last Tsalala female, or last Southern Pride female, then i agree, they cant be called 1 of those names, as both last females of their prides linked.
It doesn't make any sense to me. As I understand you want this potential newly formed group call Ximunghwe pride just because:
1. Othawa pride is still existing pride elesewhere so it doesn't make sense to take name of the pride from Othawa breakaway and therefore we HAVE TO take name from Ximunghwe female exept that we do not have to take name from either of those. As this is totally new group composed of in equal numbers Othawa breakaway and Ximunghwe female we can not speak about one of those being incorporated into the other, but about forming somethink new and should be given new separate name.
2. Ximunghwe pride has long legacy and it would be pity if the name of the pride disappear which doesn't make sense to me because:
a) name change would not infuence pride's legacy. Everyone would be still fully aware of what is this pride composed of similarly as it is with a coalitions
b) the end of somethink doesn't need to be bad and in that case I deffinitelly wouldn't say it is somethink bad, but on the contrary: I think it would be bautifful story if two females would join up, form a new pride in the region and flourish.
(05-17-2022, 12:12 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: But again, we need to see if these 2 will eventually form a pride together yet. If Ximhungwe female thru blood doesnt leave any legacy before she dies, then yes, Ximhungwe name should be ditched and Gingerella and her offspring will be called Othawa breakaways or something.
Changing pride's name all over would be even the worst option of all just talked through there. If those two form a pride they should just get a name insteed of constantly counting how many offspring of either of those two females are part of the pride at the moment, so if in dirrect moment it is more of Ximinghwe pride or if it more of Othawa breakaway, calling pride Ximunghwe and then after some of Ximunghwe's female cubs dies then renaming it (so at the moment it would be more of Othawa breakaway than Ximunghwe pride), and then after some of young Othawa female's cubs dies renaming it again (so it would be again more of Ximinghwe pride than Othawa breakaway pride).