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(05-06-2022, 04:40 AM)tigerluver Wrote: Here's the catch, the Mokhnevskaya Cave skull has a CBL (422 mm) that is less than the CBL of the 467.5 mm skull of P. atrox (CBL 424.3 mm). The Mokhnevskaya Cave skull is missing some posterior portion, and the 475 mm GSL might be a slight overestimate.
You are completelly right. And as far I remember the CBL is more reliable as the final part of the skull crest maybe a little longer for muscles attachment and increasing the length of the skull, but the CBL is more reliable to calculate skull sizes and body sizes overall. In this case, Panthera atrox will recover the title for the biggest felid complete skull found at this moment, but with a mandible of 318 mm, it is certainly smaller than the big mandible of the giant Bornean tiger, thus the skull of this last one will be bigger.
Even the mandible of CHA.1‑98‑C3‑246 is smaller that these two giants, with only 280 mm, if I am reading the table of Argant & Argant (2018) correctly.
By the way, do you have a picture of the Mokhnevskaya cave "lion"?