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(03-15-2022, 04:43 AM)SpinoRex Wrote: Also about the collar bone.... even if tigers would have "equally" long collar bones, which they most likely dont have.... the lion has the more robust/broader and curved one, which will give an advantage in strength and muscles(that are connected with the bone) but as Pckts mentioned a smaller one will allow more flexibility (shoulders). As i said the real difference in just length will be lower but still cant explain a length diff of 1/3 or more. Also the length isnt the main point as various relative numbers are included. In subspecies i couldnt find any noticable differences in terms of relative numbers.
I am not convince about that. If you check an African lion (male or female) of over 130 kg, it will definitelly have bigger bones in every sense agains a Malayan tigress of about 99 kg.
Unless you can compare similar sized especimens, from the same sex and about the same age, those results are not conclusive at all.
The thing isnt only the length but also the relative numbers and the fact that the bone is curved. I read somewhere that Dr Dale Miquelle talked about this topic but cant find the mail rn. He said its least impressive among the biggest tigers. In terms of length i understand your point (the diff is most likely not 33%). But the bone was significantly more curved and broader(relatively, not only in total). Though again therefore the tiger has more flexibility in the shoulders.
In relative numbers the smaller subspecies are of use. In total numbers it is "useless".