Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

[Pckts]

(03-02-2022, 04:08 AM)SpinoRex Wrote: @Pckts beside your information that i appreciate remember he weighed overall just 41 adult males in Kruger NP. And even then your assumption isnt right. I have few questions for you. 


1) How are the lions of Timbavati 2nd hand sources if they were confirmed by the Reserve HQ and the Ecologist? Note these arent common as said by the LPD and they were the forefathers of the Birmingham Pride. This doesnt sound "common" to me.

2) Note that a male of more or less average dimensions (he may be measured even over curves, which is generally used) in Etosha weighed 260 kg just in a sample of 16. Or a young adult of 244 kg in Etosha. And various lions were heavier recorded in scientific literature (Kocks lion, Sm009, Homob males and so on). Note that Smuts lion was empty and he would be 245-255 kg on an full stomach like ximpoko

He also weighed 3 males from Kalahari "we proceeded to examine their teeth and to measure and weigh each animal. The largest male weighed 192kg" page 259


1) We have already gone over why I consider them 2nd hand sources "post #293"

2)The Etosha male was gorged said to subtract at least 20kg. 
And didn't the entire sample size produce an average of 190kg? This including the 260kg Male as well or not? 
Kochs Lion is the heaviest verifiable Lion today, I have no qualms with his weight although being a significant cattle killer probably exaggerated his weight a bit. 
Adding 20-30kg Smuts Lion is pointless, that's not his weight. He was 225kg empty, anything else is speculation. 
SM009 was 222kg then 246kg so most likely has to do with stomach content.

I'm not saying that Lions can't reach weights above 225kgs but I prefer to use verifiable data and measurements that come from real sources than private reserves that generally use baiting tactics keep their Lions there. There are no outside influences when talking about Smuts and Stevenson and their data base is gigantic. Nothing they mention compares to these alleged weights out of a single place in S. Africa, that's what I'm saying. Reply