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01-21-2022, 08:40 PM( This post was last modified: 01-21-2022, 08:49 PM by GuateGojira )
(01-21-2022, 04:29 PM)acutidens150 Wrote: What are the skull GSL of Ngandong tiger & Giant Borneo tiger? If there are any found.
There are several single bones from the Ngandong tiger, most of them dentition, but we have large bones: 1 skull, 1 femur, 2 humerus and 1 mandible. All of them are from different animals and also from different locations.
About the skull, the only complete skull found was a very large one but on the line with the biggest modern Bengal/Amur tigers. The real GSL was of 373 mm (end broken), a Basal length of 318 mm and a zygomatic wide of 240 cm (one side is slightly deformed). Using modern Java tigers, which are almoust identical, but a bit wider in the zygomatic wide, we got a GSL of c.386 mm and a CBL of c.340 mm. The zygomatic wide was probably about 250 mm with no deformation. Take in count that the mandible from Watualang probably had a related skull of c.393 mm and the specimen of the femur (480 mm) was even bigger.
About the Pleistocene Borneo tiger, it is very difficult as the mandible in incomplete in more than 50% and its full reconstruction may vary depending of the surrogate mandible that we want to use. However, it is sure that the skull of that specimen is bigger than any skull reported or estimated from any Ngandong tiger at this moment.
This is the image of the skull from Ngandong and the mandible from Watualang. They are not asociated even when they put it together in this picture.
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All the Ngandong tiger fossils are currently housed in the Bandung Geological Museum from Java. Here is a picture with the skull (at the bottom center) with the mandible and other fossils from the area.