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(03-27-2021, 07:58 PM)Luipaard Wrote: You two are aware that you cannot really determine this pound for pound ranking right? This is highly subjective and thus my own opinion. It's based on the fact that it's the smallest of the four big cats yet have accomplished feats that are unmatched.
This is quite the contradictory statement.
First you say you cannot determine a lb for lb ranking then say it's subjective and only your opinion then finally you go on to say the "fact" that the smallest of the big 4 accomplished feats that are unmatched.
So which is it, opinion, undetermined or fact?
First off, this claim alone is wrong "the smallest of the four big cats yet have accomplished feats that are unmatched."
How you come to the conclusion that dragging an impala sized carcass up a tree is more impressive than dragging a 800kg Bovine or a 100kg Caiman up a steep muddy slope through dense grass.
If you want to stick with it being your opinion, that's fine but like I've already shown you, you're interpreting lb for lb wrong to begin with.
It's fairly easy to see just given the eye test between these cats.
The Leopard is the least physically impressive of the 4, it's build is much more gracile than the other 3, this isn't only true for the males but also the females. Try finding a Female Leopard that compares to the big Tigress, Lioness and Jaguars, you can't. This isn't to take anything away from the Leopard, it's just easily noticeable.
Quote:First you say you cannot determine a lb for lb ranking then say it's subjective and only your opinion then finally you go on to say the "fact" that the smallest of the big 4 accomplished feats that are unmatched.
Well yes it is a fact that it's the smallest of the big cats and it is a fact that none of the other three have dragged prey 2-3 times its own bodyweight vertically up a tree.
Quote:How you come to the conclusion that dragging an impala sized carcass up a tree is more impressive than dragging a 800kg Bovine or a 100kg Caiman up a steep muddy slope through dense grass.
You took the least impressive case vs the most impressive case for your comparison. They have dragged much heavier prey than an impala-sized one and you know this; young giraffes, rhino calves, young buffalo, young zebra's, ... Carrying this straight up a tree requires a serious amount of strength from your jaws, forelimbs and neck. Lion whisperer Kevin Richardson stated that a lion could not do the equivalent.
Quote:It's fairly easy to see just given the eye test between these cats. The Leopard is the least physically impressive of the 4, it's build is much more gracile than the other 3, this isn't only true for the males but also the females. Try finding a Female Leopard that compares to the big Tigress, Lioness and Jaguars, you can't. This isn't to take anything away from the Leopard, it's just easily noticeable.
Male leopards are everything but gracile hence why they're able to take down tough and robust prey such as wild boar, warthog and red river hog. And for some leopards this on a regular basis. And how are they least impressive when they possess the most extreme sexual dimorphism among the big cats? The males constantly dwarf the females because they have a different build. Take a look at their broad heads or massive bulking neck. That's a real eye test.