About methods, measurements, errors, baits and the art of debating

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It is incredible, in Carnivora (Taipan maybe) ERASED all my defense, copied by @Pckts!

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So, it is obvious that they are going to support the lies of @WaveRiders at all coast. It is sad to see that posters like @Richardrli prefer to go there instead of here. Also Chui should came here to see that we are not supporting this stupid web-fights, but is Waveriders who started all this.

By the way, it seems obvious that Dr Sunquist confirmed to Wave that he measured his tigers in a straight line, but now he twist his words trying to confuse the all issue, check this:

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It is OBVIOUS that Waveriders will NEVER accept the true, so is better to ignore him, like the 90% of the posters in Carnivora. I also advice to @Pckts to ignore them too, as they are treating you like an ignorant, which is false, THEY are the ignorant and liars. Besides, you can see that they are going to start erasing your posts, so what is the point to go there?

Also, about the email of Dr Miquelle, check this out:

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This image help with the interpretation:

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There is no such thing as perfectly 100% straight line in nature, like Waveriders claim that most be. Nor even the measurements between pegs were 100% perfect as many times they were made in irregular ground and that twisted somewhat the body of the animals. The claim of "perfection" of Wave is simply idiotic and show that what he wants is to disqualify the scientific records of tigers.

Dr Miquelle is explaining one thing but Waveriders twist his words and is unable to interpret it correctly, with the aid of Dr Sunquist. Check this image from The Amur Tiger Programme:

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They are pressing the tape only in the part where they are running it trough the body as they had not finished the measurement (check that the body is straight), but at the end, like Dr Sunquist mentioned and like is stated in Nowell & Jackson (1996), they take the measurements in straight line.

Check this image too:

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Measured in straight line. Waveriders is clearly against any information pro-tiger. This is just a resemblance of the old days in AVA and show that this type of person is not for science, but to create lies and pollution in our new forum. What a waste of time with a guy that is embarrassing himself with each post.

Finally, and I end with this, here is the correct interpretation of the paragraph of Kerley et al. (2005):

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The point between "...tail" and "In the.." doesn't mean that this part of the paragraph belongs to the previous part, but is concatenated with the next paragraph, it is an obvious form to write in any professional paper.

There you go, I am not going to waste more time with Waveriders-liar. I am tired of this stupid fights with ignorant, liars and fanatics. The information has been presented, we know that @WaveRiders is going to twist it like always and in his sick mind he will try to discriminate me and the forum, as this is the form that this liar and honorableness person works.

So the last decision is from YOU, the reader of this forum.

It you want REAL data, came to Wildfact.com/forum, here you will found a place for science and to enjoy nature, with no "vs" fights.

Greetings to all. Reply