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(11-10-2020, 01:52 AM)Rage2277 Wrote: there's no conspiracy here, no blank spots what happened in the vid is exactly what i stated before, he dominated two subadults and left the area it's nothing extraordinary and out of the norm..like at what point did he ran this just shows how inaccurate google translate can be he was literally shown swimming across the river to engage made his message clear, a went on his way i can't believe there was even a debate of what happened to begin with this was so easy to deduce, even with the prior limited footage.
This is not about google translation what comes to the text. If you pay a little bit attention to previous postings you can see, that I have written, that I have three Brazilian people who speak Portuguese as native language, who all translate the text so, that Edno ran away or was kicked off or evicted, however different people want to express it, when one flees.
I hope, that this is now crystal clear, that this translation which I have told isn´t based on google translator, even though also google translator makes same translation.
What comes to video clips and what can be seen is then another thing. As is it, that what guide tells and what can be seen so far from these short clips are in contradiction at least partially if not completely. That´s why I hope to see whole incident on video one day, not just glimpses from here and there.
But you can forget google translator, because it wasn´t used as primary source for translation, primary source were Brazilian people.
the footage coudn't be anymore clear as to what occurred there isn't anything missing not sure what you're looking for..i guess in their minds and yours the youngsters not leaving and edno casually walking off marking as he goes is him backing out or that this interaction was some sort of victory for the subadults.
I hope to see whole incident and see what happens. It´s actually that simple. I don´t really care who wins or not or is it a stalemate of a kind. Of course when two different people who were there write in a way, that they are surprised to see siblings hold ground it´s interesting and it would be interesting to see if there is something to justify such claim in some way or not.
Now it looks like that this guide and that photographer made quite controversial, if not totally false, claims while stating siblings as victors.
But to show an example why it´s always interesting to see more than a few seconds from here and there, here is one brutal fight of two male lions. If seeing only 5 seconds from start and then a few seconds from the end, it would be easy to say that "a small skirmish" between brothers.... But when seeing more it´s easy to see that this was quite nasty fight and both have been sore for some time afterwards.
If taking for instance glimpses from 0:40-0:43 and then 6:34-6:38 it could be claimed, that bigger lion quickly asserted dominance... And that´s why I dislike to see just short glimpses from here and there.
the incident with edno and the youngsters was a brief encounter there's nothing more to it..unlike this lion fight which wasn't that brief even still you can get a good picture of what's happening or what happened before they engaged they could have been sitting around for hours before not doing anything most people won't film that this one is where they start fighting