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(10-15-2020, 03:19 AM)Potato Wrote: Well... there are no more male lions in Manyeleti at the moment so it can be : Red Road male is looking amazing since his mane filed up.Giraffe males bloodline goes strong. Btw coming back to his origins, why actually he was always considered Avoca/Giraffe son while by the time RedRoad was born it was Northern Matimbas who were dominant in the Ngala? Some said recently that Skorro male might be his father as he was seen in Ngala with some cubs, but by that time Skorro pride lived in Ngala so he easly could be just with his natal pride and cubs sired by Matimbas or just male looking for refuge in Red Road female as Matimbas were taking over Skorro pride and forcing out Skorro males from natal pride.
Scorro is not from Scorro pride, his origins are unknown as far as i know..
Why is RRM considered to be sired by Avoca/Giraffes is quite unclear to me too..
Matimbas where dominant over Birmingham pride in 2014,they ousted 5 Bboys.. And Red Road pride is Birmingham breakeaway pride.. But the problem is we have no idea who was dominant over Birmingham breakeaway at that time.. Now, who came with an idea that he is sired by Avoca/Giraffes idk, but maybe somebody knew that they where dominant over that pride, afterall they where further west dominant over Avocas.. And then in 2015 started moving east..
But anyways, i more and more believe that he is sired by Scorro, judging by the looks, he doesn't look like any N. Matimba..
According Annie. She never see the N Matimba males with the Birmingham pride. So at the moment doesn't exist any proof that they controlled the Birmingham pride.
The red road male has born in the main Birmingham pride (the oldest females) were often called Red road lionesses
Were tho such interactions between Birmingham pride and Giraffe males?
The Giraffe males were know as the Western males on Ngala area. The Giraffe coalition appeared on Ngala in 2013 by first time (as far I remember) I have some good photos of that year too.
However,the N.Matimba males in 2014 were spending the majority of their time with the Skorro pride and on November they sired their first offpsring and later in 2015.