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(04-15-2019, 01:00 PM)Luipaard Wrote: And do you know what kind of leopard your zoo has? You can't compare a small leopard subspecies with a large subspecies of jaguar.
3 are from East Africa, 2 are Persian (the most beautifull specimens I've ever seen with nice elongated body). I don't know the origin of the 3 jaguars, most probably from Brazil. Again jaguars are 1,5-2 times more massive, I have seen them hundred times. I don't talk so much about linear size - length or height but about immense, almost bear-like robustness of the jaguars. Look how jaguar is walking, almost like a bear, for sure not gracious like other cats. In same linear dimentions of jaguar you could place 1,5 leopards, which are much more slender.
Pantanal is famous as place where big jaguars could be easily spotted. But I dont think that jaguars from other parts of Brazil are much smaller. Amazon rain forest in Brazil and surrounding countries comprise 90% of jaguars in the world and they all are more or less big, not far in size to Pantanals jaguars. True, jaguars from South Mexico are much smaller and have a size of leopards, but their number is insignificant in comparison with jaguars from the endless Amazon forest and they are not representative for the specie. If we get the smallest leopard subspecie - Arabian they are definetily smaller than southern Mexican jaguars, with females Arabian leopards having average body mass of 20 kg... and some of them even 15 kg...
The size of Amazon:
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So, lets not turn upsite down a fact that everybody should know from the school - that jaguar is by far the third largest cat in the world.
This is an old post but I have to say your explanation is on point. May I ask, do you know the weights from the jaguars in the zoo? If their coloration is black or dark then they wouldn't be Pantanal animals as melanism is not present on them. Most jaguars from N American zoos have mixed genes from Central (including Mexico) and South America from regions such as the Amazon.