Lion and Tiger Fight Interaction in Zoo, Circus or Any Other Captive Places

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(08-14-2020, 01:10 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(08-13-2020, 07:27 PM)Spalea Wrote: @Shadow :

About #174: agree with you and I just would add that in wild fights between male lions of different prides are much more serious in case of territory question than the fights within the same pride because of the lionesses in heat. Because in this last case the males of the same pride rule together over the same territory. And the territory questions always prevail over the "lionesses in heat" questions.

This lion and this tiger having been breed together have learnt to interact in the same enclosure. Because of a single lioness in heat, the tiger becomes a male a little bit too curious for the male lion, but it remains a problem inside the same pride  - male lion, lionesses and male tiger -, thus not a very serious conflict. Of course the male lion is able to perceive that this male tiger woluld be a huge opponent, and the small fight is already stopped. But over and over again this male lion like the dominant male of a pride will always prevent the tiger to come too close to the lioness.

I didn´t bring in anything about territorial fights because mentioning irrelevant things in wrong context often create confusion, when some people misunderstand by mistake or on purpose and then discussions go to weird directions. Keeping it simple is often better.

Anyway in lion prides situations are often clear or made clear quite quickly. Then again fights can be surprisingly fierce even between brothers if there is challenge when mating season. Like some famous fights among Mapogos have shown if seeking examples. Still those are usually over soon, one brawl and that´s it. Dominant one can go back maybe once again just to be sure, that message was delivered. 

When looking at this lion and tiger I think, that even though this tiger and lion have been raised together, here can be seen that despite it, they are different species and it can cause extra brawls. What would be clear for another lion, what comes to behaving in lion coalition and pride, can be odd for a tiger causing difficulties. Even though captive, both have evolved to have somewhat different mentality and behavior "models". If that tiger would be another male lion, I don´t think that there would be that many brawls, message would be delivered and understood way easier. 

I think, that this tiger understood message partially though and didn´t try to challenge the lion too much. If not so, fight would have developed fast to way more serious. One interesting thing to think is, that how much influence close relationship between these two might have had. I don´t see either one to put all in at any point even though some harsh swipes etc. Like both trying to understand each others as much as they can. With some other lion and tiger there it could have ended up badly.

yea good summary was thinking pretty much the same Reply