Lion and Tiger Fight Interaction in Zoo, Circus or Any Other Captive Places

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(08-13-2020, 06:16 PM)Pantherinae Wrote:

(08-10-2020, 06:14 PM)Apollo Wrote:

(08-10-2020, 04:31 PM)Spalea Wrote: @sanjay :

About #164: one time the lion wins (Dubai, more serious by far), an other time it's the tiger... As long as they will be fenced in the same area, such fights or skirmishs will happen.

Naah.
In both the videos posted by @sanjay and @Sanju the tiger was the dominant one of the two.

May I ask how did you conclude that either animal was dominat in those two videos? I see one animal (lion) protecting a female and the other (tiger) being curious. Small "fights" breaks out, but neither comes out looking dominant at all. And the fact that they both come back to have these small brawls all the time shows to me that they don’t fear eachother at all and that neither seems to be the dominant animal.

I´m a little bit busy now but I thought to say how I see this situation and these discussions. It´s interesting how differently same situation can be seen and naturally many things can have effect. Based on what I´ve seen on these videos from this zoo and these two individuals, I see this lion as dominant big cat in that enclosure acting a lot like a dominant male lion does in lion pride. Then again does tiger agree always is another question. Lion makes those attacks, then goes back to lioness and looks over his shoulder what tiger is doing. If he isn´t satisfied to what he sees, he charges again and fights if tiger doesn´t show some gestures, which I can only guess what they are.

But since sometimes lion just charges and sometimes goes to full brawl, there has to be something. Obviously lion has no fear, he turns his back to the tiger and walks away many times just like dominant males do in prides, when they drive off other males who are too close to some lioness or lionesses. So I see lion acting like lions do.

Another thing then is, that "competitor" isn´t another lion and it can be the reason why there happens these brawls so often. Tiger might be a bit confused how to be and act there, when lioness is in heat and male lion changes to testosterone monster. If it would be another lion, it for sure would be easier. Probably only 1-2 brawls and then things back to more peaceful. Unnatural environment with limited space can and for sure does increase challenges. And this tiger isn´t a pushover just like that, not at all. It´s capable to fight clearly, both give and receive when looking all of these confrontations, which are now delivered in too many video clips. It would be much better to see all in right timeline and in one video. But lion and tiger fans do as they do, when they edit these.

Overall, as said, I see this male lion as dominant big cat in that enclosure. Tiger, in my eyes, gives up after some time, whatever the reason is. Does it give up in future is the question for me. And if they are kept in same enclosure in future too, (when lionesses are in heat) does there happen one day a really serious fight... Leading to serious injury or death of one or both of these big boys. It would be a shame. I have understood that as a result of these brawls both got some scratches and tiger got one bigger wound on it´s forehead. Hopefully they would be able to handle situation so, that not leading to unnecessarily serious results. These are very good looking individuals despite malformed hindlegs of the lion and kind of shame if zookeepers let them fight just to get video clips :/

This is how I see this. Other people can disagree. By all means, I don´t mind :) Reply