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05-18-2020, 04:34 PM

(05-18-2020, 10:46 AM)OncaAtrox Wrote:
(05-18-2020, 05:43 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 09:52 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 08:47 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 08:00 PM)OncaAtrox Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 07:24 PM)Dark Jaguar Wrote: onçafari

Pinche male.

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Do you have any information on his age? His frame appears rather small akin to an Atlantic forest jaguar rather than a Pantanal one but he is very robust nonetheless.

Pinche started being monitored in 2016 and according to onçafari's estimations he was born in 2013, he is not a very big male here you can see him mating with Natureza female 86.5kg, he doesn't dwarf her but he is indeed a robust male.

Zico male 110kg on the other hand for example he is a very tall male.

These ''smaller'' Pantanal Jags can definitely have similar measurements and dimensions to large Cerrado jags of the same size since they overlap in these situations and speaking of Cerrado jaguars the misterious 118kg cerrado male jaguar I even seriously thought he could be Tiago cerrado male but Tiago was captured in March this year so I ruled out that possibility. But Tiago has all dimensions to be 118kg for sure. I am still trying to find out his weight but with no success as of yet unfortunately.

This cerrado male is probably Tiago.

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Indeed he does have a small frame for a Pantanal jaguar but still then I don't doubt he's above or close to 100 kg. It's just unusual to see jaguars of a small frame in Pantanal, nonetheless he is very handsome and robust.
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he must be an average sized male. Jairzão also has a small frame, he is around 6 years old and 82kg, but he is pure muscles. he was captured at Estação Ecológica de Taiamã Mato Grosso and the photographer Adriano Gambarini followed the capture.

https://www.oeco.org.br/colunas/adriano-...-encontro/

credits: Adriano Gambarini

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In case you wondering who this 118kg cerrado male jag is, he was mentioned in one of @Pckts posts in the jaguar weight and measurements thread.

This conversation really got me excited.

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Tiago cerrado male really drove me crazy I can't wait to post him in the modern weight and measurement thread hehe but I am still curious who that 118kg cerrado male could be.

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I already left 4 messages whithin a month to Leandro and Anah regarding just Tiago's weight but with no response.

good news is that there are 2 cerrado monsters (or definitely more) out there.
That Cerrado jaguar got me excited as well, he's huge wow. And the other two jaguars that weighed 130 and 135 kg I'm assuming were Pantanal specimems? It'd be great if they could post the names of the jaguars to add them to the long list of Pantanal Tom's that grow past the 130 kg mark.

Even with these weights I still can't believe some people want to insist in comparing them to leopards, it's beyond frustrating at this point but at least we have a better idea on how big they can get through the work of these conservational groups.

This Cerrado jaguar is really driving me crazy Funny

. Yes those two jags with 130kg and 135kg are Pantanal males.

Leopards are interesting creatures but when it comes to sheer muscular power, brute force, explosiviness all combined the jaguars tops it, leopards has their impressive feats on their own right along with Pumas they're very acrobatic cats, both dominate the ''trees skills'' however jaguars are just so naturally broad and ''thick'' even the smallest population from Caatinga you can still see that bulkness look on them, that's what jaguars are built for. By the way I love Pumas too they're one of my favorite cats. If some people don't believe jaguars don't achieve certain sizes/weights just let them keep that belief, there are plenty examples to prove otherwise. Its the world's 3rd largest cat for a reason right.

Yes we need more of these large jaguars reported ( and shared for the public ). I am also curious to know Atlantic Forest population average sizes but I will wait until the population reestablish more to get that info, its better to know with very good numbers.

A few of the jaguars in these pics bellow may already be in the weight and measurement thread but most of them aren't.

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Nice compilation.

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Big Puma.

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MM Male from south pantanal he was captured a few times I still wanna know how big this dude was in his last capture.

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Cerrado jag.

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This video bellow you can see Maya captive cerrado female being treated she had a little wound on her tail. I wanna know cerrado females weight too. Ariane wild cerrado female preyed on a male Tapir a few months ago.

Maya captive cerrado female being sedated and treated.

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