BODY SIZE AND MASS OF NGORONGORO CRATER LIONS

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(05-29-2015, 07:53 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Here is my questions to Packer and his response 

Me:"Hi Mr. Packer, a few of us on a big cat forum are having a debate in regards to Ngorongo Crater lions compared to Serengeti Lions regarding size.
 Since you have seen both and weighed them, I was curious your take. 
 -Visually, do you notice a difference between them in regards to Body lenght, Height or Robustness?
 -Verified Measurements?
 I have read that Crater lions had a larger chest girth than other lions but I have not been able to find published measurements of these Chest Girth to compare to others. From what I have seen the best correlation for Lion or Tiger weight is body length, but obviously if a lion is similar length and height, than a larger chest girth will equal a larger cat.   My question is if you measured them and how they compare to each other according to you, and what you would estimate their weights to be.
 Serengeti LIon ?vNgorongo Crater Lion?
 Thanks sir, your time is appreciated. Regards,"

His Response

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Craig Packer5:58 AM (1 hour ago)

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    "All I can say is that the Ngorongoro lions are 10-20% bigger than the Serengeti lions - but Serengeti lions are quite small compared to South African lions  As far as I know, the Crater lions are the largest of all -- but I have no idea what that mean in terms of bodyweight"





Interesting to read, since Crater and Serengetti lion are the same in terms of individual, it really makes you wonder what the weight difference is between the two and what does a richer food bank mean for size.

I'll ask if he has seen Okavango Lions.

I wonder if Crater lions are given enough time the way Kaziranga Tigers have been, will you start to see slight differences in appearance like you do in Kaziranga Tigers, like in their Skulls for instance. 

 Edit: I asked about the Okavango Lions, Notch, Matimbas and Majingilanes just because we are discussing them atm.
I'll let you know what he says.

I'm not sure what he means with his response when saying the "largest of all"
Im not sure if he is saying Chest Girth or Body size.
Does any body know the measurements of chest girth and mass of S. African Lions we can compare to see if this holds true?

 

10 - 20% is a significant size difference. Thanks for making the  inquiry and posting the results.
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