Who is the "king" of tigers? - Bengal or Amur

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(05-04-2015, 03:21 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(05-04-2015, 02:42 AM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:

(05-04-2015, 02:38 AM)'Pckts' Wrote:

(05-04-2015, 02:09 AM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:

(05-04-2015, 12:24 AM)'Pckts' Wrote: Stretched out tigers or one image picked out is not reliable to determine weight. Scaling them agianst human beings is usefull but not scientific. 
Especially when said humans stats are unknown i:e Height, weight etc.

In regards to posting captive body weights, you and I both look at the same table.
If you need me to post it here I will, but its easily found on this forum. That table is verified weights and measurements and most tigers are with in the normal range of their species. 

You also asked why I think they are overweight, 
A couple of reasons,
Most have a less defined muscle definition and have large bellys IMO.
They are robust but not as definied as a wild tiger. While siberians have a thicker coat you can still get a sense of their mass and muscle definition. 

Edit: Perfect example of captive specimen is the lion above
Large belly flap, and lack of muscle definition. I would also bet the female would have a large belly flap as well if she turned to the side, her chest looks droopy.





 

Baikal is not overweighed for his body frame at all.

In fact, he is slightly underweighed according to tigerluver's body mass correlation.

A modern wild tiger with the size of Baikal would easily top 900 pounds, while a pleistocene tiger would top 1000 pounds.

Baikal didn't break the 900 pounds benchmark, so he is not overweighed, but rather underweighed.

 




 

We don't have Baikal body measurements so we wouldn't know how to compare him to similar tigers.
He does look overweight though, I'm not saying he is obese but he certianly could loose some lbs. But Im not taking anything away from him, he's a big and strong boy for a captive cat. 


 



 

He has been both measured and weighed by the zoo, and he in fact weighs less than what he supposes to be.

A tiger of his size is designed to weigh more than 900 pounds, just like a 8 feet tall man who weighs 400 pounds, you cannot call him overweighed just because he weighs much more than an average man.

Baikal is 12 feet long or 8 feet in head+body length, he is much bigger than a normal tiger, so he supposes to weigh much more, that's not overweighed.


 

Where are these measurements posted at?
I have never seen them before, who stated his measurements?
I would need to see chest, neck, limb girth to believe such a number I think it just doesn't seem realistic body length but maybe that is why he is a freak. 

Lets not compare a man to a tiger, 8ft man could easily be overweight at 400lbs or be jacked at 400lbs it depends on his build. A tiger at 6'6'' body length is can be 200kgs-250kgs, a tiger at 8' is still only a foot and half longer but weighs nearly double? 
Just by looking at him you can tell he was/is overweight, not obese but overweight. Maybe its the lack of muscle definition, may be its the fur, but he looks a little overweight to me. 
Another thing to note is the fact that muscle weighs more than fat, to achieve such a weight and not be jam packed full of muscles means that he most likely does have some excess fat on him on top of the fact that Amurs put on fat easier than any other cat will all play a role. 

Edit:
Found the email for his weight and length
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/rep...UafxygSo20

They gave 9ft but it is from the Director of Development and she is a Primatologist (primate expert) not a vet or big cat expert so along with the length of 9ft and that she has probably not directly measured the cat she is just guessing its length.

But if she did measure him,
9ft really doesn't seem realistic at all for head and body, would be a world record by a long shot, I would bet she is talking about total length and assuming she is, and the tail is around 4ft or less, since they are usually 3-3.5ft that means its head and body are normal size for a Male tiger.
 

 

You can consult more from @tigerluver or @Kingtheropod if you want to have the additional information.
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