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(02-16-2020, 08:45 PM)Shadow Wrote: In some way this thread is already unnecessary or obsolete.
This case made it already a long time ago clear, that it happens sometimes.
We have also that lioness, who killed alone a cape buffalo bull from Londolozi. And some other cases. So it´s about it, that how often and how difficult/easy it is. Have some lions learned how to do it better than others. For sure that is part of it, some really have learned better.
And when talking about easy... well, here it can be said, that practically 1 hyena takes down cape buffalo bull with minimal effort. It´s brutal, but it makes big cats to look like amateurs. No wonder that lions often sit if surrounded by hyena clan.
Anyway at this point it´s not about it, that if, but how often, how easy/difficult and which lions maybe are better with buffalos than others.
The 22 hr ordeal had multiple Lions
"It was now 22 hours later and the buffalo bull the lions attacked yesterday was still alive. With the bull downed a lion feeds at its rump but when the pain becomes too much the buffalo rallies and gets to his feet but only barely. The lion hangs on and realising he isn't getting anywhere goes for the buffalo's achilles tendon downing the bull again. Will he survive another 22 hours?"
And no way can a lone lioness prey on a big alpha bull, again there are major differences between a bull and a big healthy alpha.
Hyena could probably have a better chance since their bites do more damage and they target genitals which can put the bull in shock, also being smaller makes them a harder target.
But again, that is multiple attackers extending a fight over a period of time.
The bull killed by the lioness in Londolozi is for sure a adult bull
based on the size of the horns, but I agree it must have been old or weak.
However the question has been: are male lions capable of bringing down a cape buffalo bull? the answer to that is yes. Biggest and healthiest bulls are probably not an option as no lion would target them instead of a smaller buffalo, but we can see how capable a male lion is, also as buffalo hunters so as we discussed earlier it’s the same as with tigers and gaurs. Biggest bulls are left alone, but I still consider them capable buffalo/gaur bull killers.