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Zoos, Circuses, Safaris: A Gallery of Captivity
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 (02-23-2019, 05:11 PM)Sanju Wrote:Tigers will have a very hard time jumping 5' vertically, they can articulate their spine to the extreme and stretch their body quite far to give an illusion of jumping higher but if you actually watch the distance from their back paws to the ground you can see their true vertical leap.(02-23-2019, 02:49 PM)Shadow Wrote: These youtube posters are so funny while creating headlines nothing to do with happenings in video.Yeah! the title is funny.   (03-01-2019, 06:36 PM)Sanju Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:32 PM)Pckts Wrote: How high would you estimate this vertical to be?That's minimum 10 feet to the head. or are you misunderstanding that the height an animal jumps will be calculated from the ground to its "feet" lifted from ground? It'll be calculated to the head not feet I am strictly speaking on what is known as a "vertical jump" in a sports term. Meaning the distance your body travels vertically when jumping straight up, Measured from a standing reach to a jumping reach.  (03-01-2019, 06:48 PM)Pckts Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:36 PM)Sanju Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:32 PM)Pckts Wrote: How high would you estimate this vertical to be?That's minimum 10 feet to the head. or are you misunderstanding that the height an animal jumps will be calculated from the ground to its "feet" lifted from ground? It'll be calculated to the head not feet This video has been posted many times, but maybe one more time, because this is really a great one when looking at how tiger jumps vertically. It is obvious, that it can´t jump over 10 feet obstacle without touching it, not even close to that. Totally another thing, that how up it can reach of course when something is thrown for it to catch :) Anyway this jump is pure enjoy to watch, imo :) (03-01-2019, 06:48 PM)Pckts Wrote: I am strictly speaking on what is known as a "vertical jump" in a sports term. Meaning the distance your body travels vertically when jumping straight up, Measured from a standing reach to a jumping reach.So, how many feet, a tiger can jump in your perspective? only 5? all that 12-13 feet is nonfactual? (03-01-2019, 07:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:48 PM)Pckts Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:36 PM)Sanju Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:32 PM)Pckts Wrote: How high would you estimate this vertical to be?That's minimum 10 feet to the head. or are you misunderstanding that the height an animal jumps will be calculated from the ground to its "feet" lifted from ground? It'll be calculated to the head not feet The tigers back legs are just at head level of the other tiger, these tigers don't look exceptionally large, correct? Assuming that is a height of 3.5 feet, I have major doubts that another 5 feet + are hiding in that vertical jump, on top of that, these are lighter specimens, itll only get harder for the heavier ones. (03-01-2019, 07:20 PM)Pckts Wrote:(03-01-2019, 07:02 PM)Shadow Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:48 PM)Pckts Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:36 PM)Sanju Wrote:(03-01-2019, 06:32 PM)Pckts Wrote: How high would you estimate this vertical to be?That's minimum 10 feet to the head. or are you misunderstanding that the height an animal jumps will be calculated from the ground to its "feet" lifted from ground? It'll be calculated to the head not feet Looks like to be young and fit tigers, I think. I guess, that 3-4 feet when hind legs are straight downwards just before the highest point of the jump at 12-13 seconds on the video. It starts to bend hind legs a split second before body stops upwards movement. If we compare vertical jump to results from humans and chimpanzees, the of course we are talking about 4-5 feet. Then if thinking about height of reach if trying to catch something in the air, it is for sure 12-13 feet. I am not sure if there is some right way to measure height of jump but of course there are different ways to look at it.
@Pckts
A fully-grown tiger can jump up to 5 meters (16 feet) vertically Lions and tigers can jump almost equally high. The vertical leap record for a tiger is more than 12 feet, and the lion is just a few inches less. For instance, the serval of southern Africa can reach a height of 5ft (1.5m) to catch birds in flight. We know that bigger animals can jump higher, so it is reasonable to guess that the biggest cats will be the best jumpers. The biggest cats alive today are Siberian tigers, which are thought to be able to clear 13ft (4m) in one bound. One certainly did in 2007 when it attacked visitors to San Francisco Zoo, one fatally. The tiger scaled the enclosure's 12.5ft (3.8m) wall in one jump. However, a slightly smaller cat seems to be the highest leaper of them all. (BBC Article)  *This image is copyright of its original author "I could never imagine that a tiger could so effortlessly leap from the ground on to an adult elephant's head, which is at least 12 feet above the ground," Vivek Menon, executive director of Wildlife Trust of India, said of the 2004 attack. That attack – along other examples of explosive encounters with tigers – are stoking a debate that began after a 350-pound Siberian tiger climbed over the 12 1/2-foot wall around its pen at the San Francisco Zoo on Christmas Day and mauled three visitors, killing one. Among the questions experts are now asking: How high can tigers jump? And have zoos and sanctuaries dangerously underestimated tigers? That is to say: Are the walls high enough? "We are evaluating that right now," said Vernon Weir, director of the American Sanctuary Association, which has about 35 members, only a few of which have big cats. The ASA accredits sanctuaries and in the past recommended 12-foot fences. Similarly, Association of Zoos & Aquariums, which accredits the nation's zoos, may adjust its 16.4-foot wall-height recommendation for tigers once it learns fully what happened in San Francisco, spokesman Steve Feldman said. In San Francisco, the wall was well below the AZA minimum. But several other major U.S. zoos appear to meet or exceed the standards, with high walls topped in many cases with electrified wire or pronounced overhangs to prevent tigers from pulling themselves up and over the side. Animal experts said they aren't aware of any hard numbers about the precise leaping ability of tigers. They said it depends on the animal and whether it has been taunted, as may have happened in the San Francisco tragedy. But Feldman said his organization's 16.4-foot figure was based on the opinions of a group of experts. There are well-publicized examples of tigers' phenomenal leaping ability. In an incident at a national park in Nepal in 1974, an enraged Bengal tiger protecting her cubs mauled a researcher who had climbed into a tree. The tiger managed to climb onto a 15-foot-high limb. "She just went right up and she didn't have much to hold onto. She clearly made that jump without much problem," said Melvin Sunquist, professor of wildlife ecology at the University of Florida and an expert on tigers. Sunquist, who published an account of the Nepal attack in his book "Tiger Moon: Tracking the Great Cats of Nepal," said he wasn't surprised by the news that a tiger had gotten out of its cage in San Francisco. "I saw what a tigress can do," he said. "If they can get a purchase on anything, they can get up there.'' Dale Miquelle, director of Wildlife Conservation Society's program in Russia, said he has seen tigers do many unusual things, such as climbing to the top of large trees when incensed – something tigers don't normally do. "What animals normally do, and what they can do, are often very different things," Miquelle said. The AZA said it has 216 accredited members with 258 tigers among them. Only five of them were born in the wild, and tigers in captivity generally cannot jump as high as those that are in top condition from hunting in the wild. Louis Dorfman, an animal behaviorist and chairman of the International Exotic Animal Sanctuary in Texas, oversees 24 tigers at his sanctuary, including an 11-year-old Bengal-Siberian tiger that weighs about 550 pounds and extends about 11 feet paw-to-paw when it stretches like a housecat. Dorfman said his tigers have never tried to scale their fences, but warned: "With provocation, they're capable of unbelievable aggression and power. These cats are a combination of strong instincts, strong emotion and no inhibition.'' Zoo visitors running back and forth can resemble prey to a tiger. Throwing objects at a tiger or dangling something can also trigger its predatory instincts. "First and foremost, people need to be educated. We need to respect them accordingly," said Jonathan Kraft, who runs Keepers of the Wild in Arizona, which has more than 20 tigers. In the San Francisco escape, "I would bet my reputation that the animal was taunted.'' https://www.thestar.com/business/tech_ne..._jump.html Tigers can jump up to 5m vertically. Their muscular legs are so powerful that they can remain standing even when dead. The same video you gave: Tiger Jumps Over 10 Feet In Air This footage was taken at Glen Africa farm in South Africa during a Volunteer Southern Africa program. If you watch closely you’ll see that the Tiger actually jumps higher than the fence of the enclosure. Impressive – and a little scary! Either way, this video is a testament to the fact that tigers are extremely athletic creatures that have the ability to leap very high into the air when triggered to attack. Tigers can leap over 10 ft in the air, and can spring vertically as far as 20ft when in full flight. There are several tiger sanctuaries in South Africa like this that allow tourists to get up close looks at these big cats. Whether this is very wise is to be seen. NOT EVEN SINGLE WORD USED IS MINE. ALL ARE FROM THE RELIABLE SOURCES EMBEDDED AND PROVIDED. (03-01-2019, 07:46 PM)Sanju Wrote: @Pckts Relax, you and pckts are just talking about different ways to measure the height of the jump :) (03-01-2019, 07:48 PM)Shadow Wrote: Relax, you and pckts are just talking about different ways to measure the height of the jump :) Yeah! I said that before in #1,461 post. The measurements are not on sports "high jump" basis. You understood. (03-01-2019, 07:49 PM)Sanju Wrote:(03-01-2019, 07:48 PM)Shadow Wrote: Relax, you and pckts are just talking about different ways to measure the height of the jump :) Anyway I don´t believe, that any tiger could jump to 20 feet. When big cats go over higher fences it is something like this here: It is just, that if tiger can jump like 4-5 feet upwards when looking at hind legs straight down, put there body lenght and it is like 12-13 feet. Maybe if running and getting a perfect jump with speed it could be a somewhat higher. So when someone writes like 20 feet, it sounds pretty much compared to some videos, where we have seen jumping tigers. For instance that video I shared, that tiger didn´t jump 10 feet if we measure height of hind legs, When it got that meat, head was maybe 11-12 feet from the ground.
@Shadow
(03-01-2019, 08:15 PM)Shadow Wrote: For instance that video I shared, that tiger didn´t jump 10 feet if we measure height of hind legs, When it got that meat, head was maybe 11-12 feet from the ground. whatever, all those measurements are to the head. (03-01-2019, 08:15 PM)Shadow Wrote: So when someone writes like 20 feet, it sounds pretty much compared to some videos, where we have seen jumping tigers.Videos of all those incidents can't be recorded at that moment and even recorded are not available for everyone. So believing in the sources or not depends on your opinion. 
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