Elephants and Rhinos Interactions

[sanjay]

 A wonderful moment is captured by amateur photographer couple Louis Kok and his wife Marthie When a musth (testosterone-fueled) Large male elephant attacked female rhino which was protecting its calf. It charged at the rhino and flipped it onto its back. The giant elephant roll the female rhino around and crush it under its weight. Female rhino managed to get back up, but she died due to the injuries days later.

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The bull musth elephant charged and tossed the female black rhino, she flipped a side due to extreme push by elephant.

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The elephant put all his weight on the female rhino as she was trying to protect her calf.

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Elephant has only one tusk, but he was very aggressive you can she the female rhino laid on ground

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You can see the sign of musth near his ear as he continued attacking the rhino

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Musth is a condition during which bull elephants experience a huge rise in reproductive hormones - testosterone levels can reach up to 50 times higher than normal. This makes them extremely aggressive.

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Female rhino tried hard to stand up but the bull elephant keep rolling her for large distance, this injured her seriously

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The rhino calf was watching all these incident behind the bush, he was helpless and can not help her mother

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The rhino calf tried to search her mother when the bull elephant stop the attack.

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The calf remained in the vicinity for some time, circling her mother and attempting repeatedly to help her up

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Female rhino was groaning in pain due to serious injury, calf was trying to push her mother so that she stand up.

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Really very said, the female rhino manage to stand up after 2 hours from but sadly she died next day due to the injury by bull elephant.

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[GuateGojira]

Brutal and merciless, this is the raw nature.

Poor rhino, it had no chance against a larger/intelligent/aggressive foe.

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[sanjay]

The black rhino is smaller and female is more smaller, so there is no chance.. Reply

[GuateGojira]

Yes, you are right Sanjay.

I can't avoid to feel a little of "injustice" here, I mean, the female was just protecting her calf while the elephant was just a "crazy dude" around the corner. Besides, black rhinos are far more endangered than elephants, and this loss is even more dramatic from this point of view.

However, like I said before, this is the raw nature, there is no "fair" things here.

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[GrizzlyClaws]

If the rhino was the largest species of Elasmotherium, a large bull specifically, it would have put a good fight against the elephant bull. Reply

[Pckts]

Nothing stands a chance against a Bull elephant.
White rhinos where being killed at a alarming rate by young bull elephants in musk until they brought in mature bull elephants from other areas to keep the youngsters in check.
"The problem was solved. The herd was thinned out, and all was well at Kruger National Park. Sometime later, however, a strange problem surfaced at South Africa’s other game reserve, Pilanesburg National Park, the younger elephants’ new home.Rangers at Pilanesburg began finding the dead bodies of endangered white rhinoceros. At  first, poachers were suspected, but the huge rhinos had not died of gunshot wounds, and their precious horns were left intact. The rhinos appeared to be killed violently, with deep puncture wounds. Not much in the wild can kill a rhino, so rangers set up hidden cameras throughout the park.The result was shocking. The culprits turned out to be marauding bands of aggressive juvenile male elephants, the very elephants relocated from Kruger National Park a few years earlier. The young males were caught on camera chasing down the rhinos, knocking them over, and stomping and goring them to death with their tusks. The juvenile elephants were terrorizing other animals in the park as well. Such behavior was very rare among elephants. Something had gone terribly wrong."
http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

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[Pantherinae]

Amazing pictures, that where hard to watch! Good to see The calf was indeed a large calf who has a good chance to survive!  Reply

[GrizzlyClaws]

(09-22-2014, 11:22 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Nothing stands a chance against a Bull elephant.
White rhinos where being killed at a alarming rate by young bull elephants in musk until they brought in mature bull elephants from other areas to keep the youngsters in check.
"The problem was solved. The herd was thinned out, and all was well at Kruger National Park. Sometime later, however, a strange problem surfaced at South Africa’s other game reserve, Pilanesburg National Park, the younger elephants’ new home.Rangers at Pilanesburg began finding the dead bodies of endangered white rhinoceros. At  first, poachers were suspected, but the huge rhinos had not died of gunshot wounds, and their precious horns were left intact. The rhinos appeared to be killed violently, with deep puncture wounds. Not much in the wild can kill a rhino, so rangers set up hidden cameras throughout the park.The result was shocking. The culprits turned out to be marauding bands of aggressive juvenile male elephants, the very elephants relocated from Kruger National Park a few years earlier. The young males were caught on camera chasing down the rhinos, knocking them over, and stomping and goring them to death with their tusks. The juvenile elephants were terrorizing other animals in the park as well. Such behavior was very rare among elephants. Something had gone terribly wrong."
http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

 

 

How about the prehistoric 5-7 tons rhino?
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[Pckts]

(09-23-2014, 09:12 PM)'GrizzlyClaws' Wrote:

(09-22-2014, 11:22 PM)'Pckts' Wrote: Nothing stands a chance against a Bull elephant.
White rhinos where being killed at a alarming rate by young bull elephants in musk until they brought in mature bull elephants from other areas to keep the youngsters in check.
"The problem was solved. The herd was thinned out, and all was well at Kruger National Park. Sometime later, however, a strange problem surfaced at South Africa’s other game reserve, Pilanesburg National Park, the younger elephants’ new home.Rangers at Pilanesburg began finding the dead bodies of endangered white rhinoceros. At  first, poachers were suspected, but the huge rhinos had not died of gunshot wounds, and their precious horns were left intact. The rhinos appeared to be killed violently, with deep puncture wounds. Not much in the wild can kill a rhino, so rangers set up hidden cameras throughout the park.The result was shocking. The culprits turned out to be marauding bands of aggressive juvenile male elephants, the very elephants relocated from Kruger National Park a few years earlier. The young males were caught on camera chasing down the rhinos, knocking them over, and stomping and goring them to death with their tusks. The juvenile elephants were terrorizing other animals in the park as well. Such behavior was very rare among elephants. Something had gone terribly wrong."
http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

 


 

How about the prehistoric 5-7 tons rhino?
 

 

How about a T-Rex than?
hahaha
I'm talking about animals that exist today.
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[chaos]

(09-22-2014, 08:05 PM)'GuateGojira' Wrote: Yes, you are right Sanjay.

I can't avoid to feel a little of "injustice" here, I mean, the female was just protecting her calf while the elephant was just a "crazy dude" around the corner. Besides, black rhinos are far more endangered than elephants, and this loss is even more dramatic from this point of view.

However, like I said before, this is the raw nature, there is no "fair" things here.

 

 

Sad it is. I have difficulty watching videos of wild creatures being killed. Reply

[peter]

I remember a BBC-documentary on aggressive young male elephants attacking buffalo's and rhino's in a reserve in South Africa. Happened quite some years ago. The cause was no adult bulls in the reserve. This resulted in a lack of role models, angry young men and numerous dead animals. They tried to transfer an adult bull to the reserve, but it proved too difficult. In the end, it was decided that one of the rangers had to act as an older bull elephant (...). He, his collegue and their Landrover had some close encounters, but the effect was quite impressive.

The lesson is destruction of a system or a population has much more consequences than those seen at first sight. It's about the entire system and the social consequences.

Same with us. What do you think will happen when we remove everyone over, say, 40 from our society? Why is it angry young man get their chance in societies that have been largely destroyed?

I remember a study about rats. Colonies are destroyed every now and then. It was announced by the loss of gate-keepers, a sharp rise of infants killed and groups leaving before the fall.

Does that ring any bells? Let me see. Pom, pom, pom. Yes, I remember. In the western world, there are economies. They want to grow. When it doesn't happen and the ever present bubbles explode, governments have no option but to cut. They always target the most crucial parts first. Referring to education, law and order, public transport, health and defence too. This, of course, results in more inequality, poverty and more crime (there is a direct connection). We've able to prevent total collapses so far, but one day a collapse can't be prevented. It's part of the game. Seen it before? Pom, pom, pom. Yes. Rome.

I think we can learn from animals and biologists studying social systems for years. Packer and Rabinowitz for President, I propose. How get them there? Reply

[Pckts]

(09-26-2014, 08:49 AM)'peter' Wrote: I remember a BBC-documentary on aggressive young male elephants attacking buffalo's and rhino's in a reserve in South Africa. Happened quite some years ago. The cause was no adult bulls in the reserve. This resulted in a lack of role models, angry young men and numerous dead animals. They tried to transfer an adult bull to the reserve, but it proved too difficult. In the end, it was decided that one of the rangers had to act as an older bull elephant (...). He, his collegue and their Landrover had some close encounters, but the effect was quite impressive.

The lesson is destruction of a system or a population has much more consequences than those seen at first sight. It's about the entire system and the social consequences.

Same with us. What do you think will happen when we remove everyone over, say, 40 from our society? Why is it angry young man get their chance in societies that have been largely destroyed?

I remember a study about rats. Colonies are destroyed every now and then. It was announced by the loss of gate-keepers, a sharp rise of infants killed and groups leaving before the fall.

Does that ring any bells? Let me see. Pom, pom, pom. Yes, I remember. In the western world, there are economies. They want to grow. When it doesn't happen and the ever present bubbles explode, governments have no option but to cut. They always target the most crucial parts first. Referring to education, law and order, public transport, health and defence too. This, of course, results in more inequality, poverty and more crime (there is a direct connection). We've able to prevent total collapses so far, but one day a collapse can't be prevented. It's part of the game. Seen it before? Pom, pom, pom. Yes. Rome.

I think we can learn from animals and biologists studying social systems for years. Packer and Rabinowitz for President, I propose. How get them there?

 

That is the link I posted. The young bulls just needed a big boss to put them in check.  Reply

[Wolverine]

Greater one-horned rhino - Indian elephant standoff:

Body mass ratio for Indian rhino to Asian elephant - 1:1,9 (2,2 tons : 4 tons average for males) is more favorable for the rhino than ratio of Black rhino to African bush elephant, the later is 5 times heavier (1,2 tons : 6 tons). In other words African black rhino is 5 times smaller than African elephant while Indian rhino is only 2 times smaller than Indian elephant. Reply

[Spalea]

(09-22-2014, 11:22 PM)Pckts Wrote: Nothing stands a chance against a Bull elephant.
White rhinos where being killed at a alarming rate by young bull elephants in musk until they brought in mature bull elephants from other areas to keep the youngsters in check.
"The problem was solved. The herd was thinned out, and all was well at Kruger National Park. Sometime later, however, a strange problem surfaced at South Africa’s other game reserve, Pilanesburg National Park, the younger elephants’ new home.Rangers at Pilanesburg began finding the dead bodies of endangered white rhinoceros. At  first, poachers were suspected, but the huge rhinos had not died of gunshot wounds, and their precious horns were left intact. The rhinos appeared to be killed violently, with deep puncture wounds. Not much in the wild can kill a rhino, so rangers set up hidden cameras throughout the park.The result was shocking. The culprits turned out to be marauding bands of aggressive juvenile male elephants, the very elephants relocated from Kruger National Park a few years earlier. The young males were caught on camera chasing down the rhinos, knocking them over, and stomping and goring them to death with their tusks. The juvenile elephants were terrorizing other animals in the park as well. Such behavior was very rare among elephants. Something had gone terribly wrong."
http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae...s-and-men/

 

I remember this amazing story of white rhinos killed by subadult orphan elephants. It had been spoken about juvenile delinquency among young elephants. Reply

[Spalea]

" A rhino and her calf were enjoying their relaxing afternoon at a waterhole, when an elephant approaches and doesn't want to share the water!

He confronts the rhinos and starts hitting them with his tusk ! Luckily the rhinos managed to escape ".

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