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Tigers of the High Himalayas

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I know, but if the population expands without intervention
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@Rishi  @sanjay  I completely agree with the point that geologist are being paranoid about spotting a tiger at 12,000 ft.

1. I mean tigers are the most adaptable animals. From hills to the Sunderbans they are everywhere. Besides none of the population is translocated, theses tigers no matter which area of India were always there. We as humans created the disturbance and isolated population into small national parks and as a result we see alot difference in tigers from different parks.

2.Talking about Uttarakhand ,there is no part of the state where tiger didn't roamed in previous times.
In Jim Corbett times when jungle cover was good tigers always crossed from Nepal to indian side and vice versa. And same happens now just that the jungle corridor has shrunk.but ask any local who is born and brought up around upper regions of the state they will tell you that tigers were and are present in the upper hills of Uttarakhand.

3.This is also the reason I always believe that Corbett park's estimation of tigers is completely wrong.because even though low in numbers but tigers are still present in the upper hills right upto the himalayas.i believe this as I know many people who have seen them.and being born here I know people are telling the truth or not.

4.Also, I have seen tigers around Nainital when I was young, although not very high in terms of altitude yet Nainital is steep yet tigers never had any problems living there.my point is they are highly adaptable and are extremely agile and their big size never poses a problem for them.

5. Uttarakhand's tiger population needs to studied in a different way
The state is special in terms of its location and landscape setup. I know there are plenty of tigers living outside the Jim Corbett national parks boundaries. The jungle corridors through hills and mountains still protects them .but we need to understand the whole thing and instead of being surprised about finding one tiger pic in high altitude, start to realise that there are many more tigers there. And so need is to protect them.

I wrote such a long post just to explain my point. I also have an eyewitness account of my uncle who lives in Pithoragarh and his dog was killed by a tiger in daylight.know many other stories.but I think this data should be enough.

Hope this helps.
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This video was released on 29th July, ie, International Tiger Day 2017...




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Yes, i agree with rishi, tigers were always there at the high himalayas i.e at around 12000feet even locals he said have confirmed this. Scientists are paranoid about the tigers going to higher altitudes due to global warming. Perhaps any tiger skeletons there could prove the point. But tigers were everywhere where ever jungles were present even at higher altitudes during a century years ago. Being a highly adaptive animal, tigers do not need to go to further heights for cold. They can survive any where. Even in mountainous regions, they should have thrived in the past.
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( This post was last modified: 07-28-2019, 09:18 AM by Rishi )

Another of these,

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( This post was last modified: 10-31-2017, 06:27 AM by Rishi )

Tigers detected at 12,000ft in Uttarakhand
Jul 30, 2016, 08.31 AM IST


The pictures were shot from a camera fixed in Askot Wildlife Sanctuary in March this year, Divisional Forest Officer (Pithoragarh) informed.

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Forest officials have sighted a royal Bengal tiger at an unusually high altitude of above 12,000 feet in the Himalayas, prompting ecologists to sense another disturbing instance of climate change.

A senior bureaucrat said the tiger—the animal typically lives at a height of 3,000-4,000 feet—was spotted in the upper ranges of Uttarakhand, adding to the faunal diversity of the rugged state bordering China’s Tibet on the north.

"Usually, it is other varieties of big cats, like snow leopards, you find at altitudes above 12,000 feet,” he told Hindustan Times. “The image was captured on March 13.”


The sanctuary, 55 km from Pithoragh in the state’s Kumaon administrative division, lies at an altitude between 2,000 ft and 22,654 ft. Famous for its musk deer population and conservation, its 600-sq-km habitat is home to leopard, jungle cat, civet, barking deer and brown bear besides the antelope-like and serow and goral among other mammals.


Scientists say tiger sighting at 12,000-ft height might indicate an effect of global warming & habitat unavailability for the growing population.


DP Dobhal of Dehradun-based Wadia Institute of Himalayan Geology said the tiger-spotting meant the animal found it warm at an elevation of 12,000 feet. “It’s not healthy news,” he told. “Now more animals may scale up. That will pose threat to other animals of the upper Himalayas.”

Number of tigers in Uttarakhand has grown, as per an all-India estimation last year. The state, formed in 2000, reported 340 tigers—the country’s second, after Karnataka (406).
Another wildlife expert pointed out that tiger-sighting in higher pose a challenge for the forest department in monitoring big cats. “Already, we are struggling to conserve tigers in their know territories,” he added.

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Personal Input: I think they are being a bit too paranoid, about tiger presence in high altitude being solely effect of climate change & habitat loss. Afterall Jim Corbett had hunted tigers in the districts of Rudraprayag & Pithoragarh a hundred years ago I'd like to hear his & @Sunalroamin 's take on it.

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( This post was last modified: 10-30-2017, 10:33 PM by sanjay )

Rishi, I agree there is some problem is showing suggestion of some name while mentioning them in a post. I think problem is becasue his username start with a non alphabetical character.
We should request him to change his username so that we can tag him
I am sorry this is fault in system and I don't think I can do much of that
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(10-30-2017, 10:26 PM)sanjay Wrote: Rishi, I agree there is some problem is showing suggestion of some name while mentioning them in a post. I think problem is becasue his username start with a non alphabetical character.
We should request him to change his username so that we can tag him
I am sorry this is fault in system and I don't think I can do much of that

@sanjay  @Rishi  I am really sorry for all the trouble happening with tagging my name

Actually I tried but cannot figure out how to change my username. If any of you can help me out that would be great :)


Also some of us were right all along. That there isn't just one but quite a few tigers living up there. Check the article below . 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/dehradun/i...YIn7M.html
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I just sent you PM $uSpiciou$
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Now, we can tag you @SuSpicious  Like
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Tigers of Bhutan, 

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More,

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Royal Manas tigers, I don't have idea if these images belong here,

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Bhutan,

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Another one,

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