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The Birmingham Males

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(07-01-2017, 07:37 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(07-01-2017, 07:28 AM)leocrest Wrote: As for mating rights, nkahuma lionesses prefer mfumo over tinyo.

Really? It used to be waaaay the other way around.

i think tinyo is more rough around the edges and cantankerous. I agree with you that he's the cause of #4's scars. Mfumo/#4 is much more passive. Just because they prefer mfumo, doesn't deter tinyo from his time with the girls.

I've never read much about the dynamics with the torchwood pride. The bboys have control of that pride, but I couldn't tell you which lion has mating rights.
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(07-01-2017, 07:52 AM)leocrest Wrote:
(07-01-2017, 07:37 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(07-01-2017, 07:28 AM)leocrest Wrote: As for mating rights, nkahuma lionesses prefer mfumo over tinyo.

Really? It used to be waaaay the other way around.

i think tinyo is more rough around the edges and cantankerous. I agree with you that he's the cause of #4's scars. Mfumo/#4 is much more passive. Just because they prefer mfumo, doesn't deter tinyo from his time with the girls.

I've never read much about the dynamics with the torchwood pride. The bboys have control of that pride, but I couldn't tell you which lion has mating rights.
Tinyo is very agressive towards the lionesses the others not so much, but he was rarely seen mating with a lioness.

I don´t know if his injuries were inflicted by one of his brothers if they were it was a pretty rough fight because he had bite marks in his face/shoulder and normally fights between members of the same coalition don´t involve much biting also none of the others had any wounds him being battered that badly without causing any wounds on the other lion is not very likely.
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Birmingham Nhenha & Possible Torchwood Lioness 
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Birmingham Mfumo - At Close Quarters - Safari Specialists 
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At Close Quarters - Safari Specialists
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Birmingham Nhenha - Pieter Dannhauser, PJD Photography 
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After a long day of resting it was time for this male to go on in search of his brothers.

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Some Birmingham action 
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A Birmingham Male Lion was moving past camp a couple of days ago, and kept female leopard, Thandi watching her surroundings. Image by Ryan Clarke


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(07-10-2017, 06:52 PM)vinodkumarn Wrote: Some Birmingham action 
Nsuku & Nhenha - 10 July 2017
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Nhenha looks massive.
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Nkuhuma Lioness with Birmingham Mfumo - Elephant Plains Game Reserve - 9 Jul 2017


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Didn´t know where to ask this question

When lions patrol they often move in a straight line I wonder if there is some sort of order, do the most dominant males stay in the front and the others in the back or is it totally arbitrary ?
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(07-13-2017, 01:19 AM)Michael Wrote: Didn´t know where to ask this question

When lions patrol they often move in a straight line I wonder if there is some sort of order, do the most dominant males stay in the front and the others in the back or is it totally arbitrary ?
It's often the case that the most dominant males stay in the front and the others but It's not a given.
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(07-13-2017, 01:19 AM)Michael Wrote: When lions patrol they often move in a straight line I wonder if there is some sort of order, do the most dominant males stay in the front and the others in the back or is it totally arbitrary ?

I think it depends on how lazy each lion is feeling that day, or how intent on doing something. But I don't think it has anything to do with hierarchy, I've seen pics of all combinations of it on the various coalitions we follow.
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(07-13-2017, 02:28 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(07-13-2017, 01:19 AM)Michael Wrote: When lions patrol they often move in a straight line I wonder if there is some sort of order, do the most dominant males stay in the front and the others in the back or is it totally arbitrary ?

I think it depends on how lazy each lion is feeling that day, or how intent on doing something. But I don't think it has anything to do with hierarchy, I've seen pics of all combinations of it on the various coalitions we follow.

I´ve seen videos of the majingilane patroling and more often than not it is Dark mane that is in the front might be because he is the most agressive but if I´m not mistaken Hipscar was the most agressive so I don´t know

It is said Dark mane is the one that engages first in confrontations why is that
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(07-13-2017, 02:39 AM)Michael Wrote: I´ve seen videos of the majingilane patroling and more often than not it is Dark mane that is in the front might be because he is the most agressive but if I´m not mistaken Hipscar was the most agressive so I don´t know

Nah, there are as many videos or pics showing him on front than following his brothers.

I don't think lions decide or show their dominance that way, although there are other species that do so, like gorillas and wolves. But I don't think it applies to lions, they're too lazy for that.
(07-13-2017, 02:39 AM)Michael Wrote: It is said Dark mane is the one that engages first in confrontations why is that


A lot of confidence on his part, I guess. It's a very individual thing, you see it with the Birmingham males as well.
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