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Wild carnivores and humans compared

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Omveer Choudhary

Tarzan -- 6.1.17 morning
He is also one of dominant male Tiger in pench ruling in Karmaghari Side.
He is big in size like BMW.
He has got mark on his body T

PC Radhe Nagpure thank you

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The big girl from this wildlife capture

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Ajay Kumar Sariska
St3 female tigress
Sariska tiger reserve .
2/1/2017 today morning .

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( This post was last modified: 01-10-2017, 10:34 AM by Polar )

This is starting to merge into a L vs T debate again. It must not result this way.

Tigers have more muscular limbs, lions have more muscular chests and trap muscle mass. Both are adapted to extreme fighting, chasing, and killing much like some bears. End of game.

I will give you a warning, @manedmauler, for initiating the starting sequence of a L vs T debate.

No more.
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All lion vs tiger crap deleted.
@manedmauler  youve been officialy warned by a mod not to bringup any L vs T.
Dont bring this LvsT again, which will lead to a ban.
I hope you get it.
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I was hoping to move the discussion and shift it away from opinionated claims and discuss actual morphological differences and the purposes they may serve, tapping into what Peter originally said but it wasn't meant to be. Sorry guys for the derailment.
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( This post was last modified: 01-10-2017, 10:03 PM by peter )

I don't mind starting a thread about lions and tigers, but we want to prevent the mess typical for nearly all forums that have these threads. The biggest problem is that threads of this nature often quickly develop into versus debates dominated by participants guided by preference. The most common results are accumulation of misinformation, a total lack of communication and a bad climate. Not interesting for posters with good information and readers.

I don't mind heated debates, but the condition to participate is quality all the way and the aim should be good information and good conclusions. In order to get there, knowledge, common sense and the willingness to cooperate are needed. For most posters, that's quite an ask.

I want to give it a try, as it could develop into an interesting thread. Apart from that, it would be good for business. The condition is good posters and good moderation. Although most of us, if not all, are preferenced to a degree, good posters should be able to overcome a few problems in order to get to a real good thread. We need one on lions and tigers, as the internet is loaded with crap in this respect.

I would be willing to do the moderation, provided a number of good lion posters report for duty. Before we start, we need to agree on a very clear set of rules and measures in case they are ignored.

At the moment, the conditions needed are not there. Besides, there's something I want to do first. Over the years, I collected a lot of information on size and skulls. The time to do something has arrived. The tables I want to produce are needed for the papers I want to write with Tigerluver. In 6 months or thereabout, we could consider a thread about lions and tigers. Anyone with ideas is invited to present them. 

In order to keep things clear, we will start a new thread about lions and tigers soon. The thread will be different from others in that it, regarding information, will be sleeping for some time to come. Only those able to do a post about the conditions and goals will post. In order to post, permission of a mod is needed.

This thread, to be sure, is about wild carnivores and humans. Not one in which ideas about a lion and tiger thread can be posted.
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I look forward to it @peter 
Like you said, "it's good for business."
Many novices out there still would like to learn about L v T, a good thread/forum could help direct them down a path they may not have known about and many of us can contribute much more educated opinions and data than we could years ago. (at least I know that I can)
I'm continuing my discussion with @manedmauler via PM and when the time comes, maybe we could use some ideas from there to help develop a thread.
Hopefully we can find a balance, good luck guys.
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@peter I think it's a great idea, not only am I interested in learning and comparing data, and listen to people's view, opinion's and estimates (in some sense). But to discuss this in a reasonable and respectful way would be fantastic and great fun. 

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The big boy Ceasar

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(01-11-2017, 10:49 PM)Pckts Wrote: The big boy Ceasar

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Wow thanks for sharing where did you find this? I've been looking for ages after pics like these.. Haha. 
Great picture which gives you an impression about his size. again thanks Pckts
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( This post was last modified: 01-12-2017, 10:48 PM by Pantherinae )

Giant Caesar in his prime, biggest male lion I have ever seen.

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One of my all time favorite Tiger photo's

Bamera of Bandhavgarh (RIP)

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another with Bam

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Waghdoh Male

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Bandhavgarh Male

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Probably my favorite picture of a male lion compared to a human ever. 

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(01-03-2017, 11:21 PM)Pckts Wrote: Anderson Male

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Holy sh.t!!! that's just a scary big leopard, wow insane....
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Narahari Kanike


Tigers of India are well disciplined. When they encounter humans they behave normally where as humans behave abnormal after seeing tigers.
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