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Lions of Sabi Sands
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 (02-23-2025, 05:15 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote:(02-23-2025, 05:11 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(02-23-2025, 04:04 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote:(02-22-2025, 07:33 PM)BA0701 Wrote:She was born march 2019 when did she give birth again?(02-22-2025, 05:09 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So I’ve got a question I’ve been doing some studying and research on females in sabi sands when they give birth but it seems they’ll give birth at around 3 in a half or just over 5 years old so when they turn 4 is it like a buffer age or something? I don’t think I’ve seen or heard of a female giving birth at that age or starting to give birth at that age but the first could be the other othawa female I believe she’s almost 4 years old You are correct, it appears she was in fact 5 years and 1 month, as I am just finding that she was born in March of 2019. I stand corrected, my apologies, I was taking a year from her, for some reason. An interesting aside, the current Tsalala lioness was born in the same cave that her mother was born in, then when we add to it that the father(s) of the current lioness' cubs are believed to have likely killed her mother, there are quite a few strange connections with this girl. https://blog.londolozi.com/2019/03/07/ts...ven-birth/  (02-23-2025, 05:19 AM)BA0701 Wrote:Oh my I forgot all about that! Very very sad and insane how things work out. I also just saw a video of a sand river female with 5 cubs!!!!(02-23-2025, 05:15 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote:(02-23-2025, 05:11 AM)BA0701 Wrote:(02-23-2025, 04:04 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote:(02-22-2025, 07:33 PM)BA0701 Wrote:She was born march 2019 when did she give birth again?(02-22-2025, 05:09 AM)Ttimemarti Wrote: So I’ve got a question I’ve been doing some studying and research on females in sabi sands when they give birth but it seems they’ll give birth at around 3 in a half or just over 5 years old so when they turn 4 is it like a buffer age or something? I don’t think I’ve seen or heard of a female giving birth at that age or starting to give birth at that age but the first could be the other othawa female I believe she’s almost 4 years old    (02-26-2025, 06:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:55 PM)FACR2212 Wrote: What happened to NK male right eye? I know he has a distintctive scar for a long time. I was always of the impression that he and Nhenha gave each other some rather serious facial scars back then, I thought the clashes with the PCMs took place awhile afterwards.  (02-26-2025, 07:00 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:55 PM)FACR2212 Wrote: What happened to NK male right eye? I know he has a distintctive scar for a long time. my theory about that eye scar for NK is that it was given by his natal pride members when he and Nhena went there. the rumnors were maybe S8 , maybe each other....but I remember distitcly it happened right at same time that the last AE Son dissapeared. I have always felt it was connected. Nkuhima had a similar scar on the same eye but it was below the eye and at the cheek....that came from the Othowa females when similarly, two were killed in same timeframe...but those scars healed.....this persistent one which was right above and side happened up north. just my theory (02-26-2025, 10:22 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:(02-26-2025, 07:00 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:55 PM)FACR2212 Wrote: What happened to NK male right eye? I know he has a distintctive scar for a long time. You may well be correct my friend, or @Tr1x24 may well be, sadly, we just don't know. There were a lot of moving parts around that period of time, and things were happening rapidly. I just remember that one day He had this injury, and one day Nhenha showed up with a facial injury (timing wise unrelated to this injury on Nkuhuma), and I also recall the injury you are referring to. I just always surmised they were being extraordinarily rough with one another. At the risk of diminishing my own previous speculation, yours, or @Tr1x24, may be a more logical possibility, given how quickly Nkuhuma parted ways with Skorro Jr, when things got testy between them. Meaning, he may well have parted ways with Nhenha as well, if things had become that rough between them.  (02-26-2025, 10:22 PM)criollo2mil Wrote:I was just wondering when Nukhuma male lion and Talamatie male lion went north. I was wondering how they are familiar with Talamatie male lion, and maybe some of the Nukhuma lionesses know Nukhuma male lion.(02-26-2025, 07:00 PM)BA0701 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:56 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:(02-26-2025, 06:55 PM)FACR2212 Wrote: What happened to NK male right eye? I know he has a distintctive scar for a long time. Nukhuma male lion must be just another male lion to them ? I mean they would be hesitant? Mother and sibling? Does Nukhuma male lion still have sisters? I know there is still Birmingham daughters, but like the Kambula male lions there must be a bond of brother and sister like k6 and her sister and three Kambula male lions k3,k4 and k5. I think once k6 and the rest of the Kambula male lions were I interested in other lionesses K12 left risking being with other lionesses that was not their family or relative. Nukhuma male lion was gone for the north a long time. I wonder what happened when going back. It must of still be been lonely with out her mother and sister. I forget does Nukhuma male lion still have a sister in Nukhuma? I know there is till two Birmingham lionesses. I wonder what the interaction was if Nukhuma was around Nukhuma ? Maybe lionesses have him that scar. Nukhuma male lion scar looks similar to one of the Birmingham male lion who also had a scar. 
Lisa Antell's account of a sighting she had at Londolozi, September of last year, a strange interaction between Tsalala and her then 3 cubs with the smaller PCM:
Tsalala and her cubs with a Plains Camp male on Tavangumi Koppies in a fascinating and puzzling interaction. Last September 12 2024 we came upon the lions resting at the base of the Koppies. As we pulled into the sighting Tsalala was urging the 3 cubs away and up into the craggy rocky koppies, putting herself defensively between them and the big PCM behind her. The cubs promptly scrambled up and hid somewhere in the huge rocky outcrop, and Tsalala settled up high on the ridge top warily watching the male as he climbed around the rocks and poked his nose into many smaller cracks and crevices as if searching for something. Was he menacing the cubs? Was he seeking something else? The big boy kept prowling around, his eyes peering very intently, all the while Tsalala kept a keen eye on him from above and the cubbies continued to be hidden away. Finally, we left them in the midday heat when the PCM settled down to snooze, allowing Tsalala to also rest awhile on top of the ridge. Still have no idea exactly what was happening, and slowly over the next few weeks all of Tsalala’s cubs disappeared forever.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author
Members of the Torchwood pride on Chitwa, Sunrise Safari 26.02. Difficult to tell but there seemed to be 2 lionesses and at least 4 sub adult males, maybe more. Most likely the Mantimahle sons. They were also briefly on Sunset Drive.
4 of the boys  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author One of the lionesses at the back. A black nose but nice white teeth, so potentially a Birmingham daughter.  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author  *This image is copyright of its original author This boy had a sore eye  *This image is copyright of its original author
(11 hours ago)NLAL11 Wrote: Members of the Torchwood pride on Chitwa, Sunrise Safari 26.02. Difficult to tell but there seemed to be 2 lionesses and at least 4 sub adult males, maybe more. Most likely the Mantimahle sons. They were also briefly on Sunset Drive.So maybe all mantimahle male lions may have Birmingham daughter cubs? I am wondering if older Styxt lioness Birmingham daughter had cubs of Nukulus. Plain camp male lions cubs hopefully are safe with Ximunguwe, Othowa and Mahngenies. Wonder if Tsalala will have more cubs. |
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