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The Charleston Males and Their Male Lineage

United Kingdom Brahim Offline
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Yeah 90 percent of the time sanparks keep it quiet
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Charleston sons with Jock pride earlier today. Got some videos of them walking also they look good.
Credit: Louis Strauss

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@Brahim 

Whats your opinion that 2 "Renosterkoppies" males (they are actually Nwaswitshaka males, DM Renosterkoppies male joined them) are also sons od Charlestons ?


This 2 Charleston som prob come from Nwaswitshaka pride (or some group/breakaway of it), aswell like 2 "Renosterkoppies" males (as we saw photo of Blondie as small cub with sub Amahle Ndhzenga in 2017).

Younger Charleston son looks very similar to Blondie:


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And Mohawk has that "weird nose/face" which might resemble Big Boy:


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I mean, Charlestons are only males who controled that part of Kruger area from 2017 - to when Big Boy was ousted by Mpondos towards late 2020.

Unless Blondie and Mohawk are still offspring of Old Nwaswitshaka males and somehow survived takeover as cubs.
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(04-24-2024, 03:58 PM)Brahim Wrote: Charleston sons with Jock pride earlier today. Got some videos of them walking also they look good.
Credit: Louis Strauss

They’re both looking in top condition. Great sighting of them!
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Sons of Charleston males with Jock pride recently getting chased by an Elephant.
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(04-30-2024, 06:56 PM)Brahim Wrote: Sons of Charleston males with Jock pride recently getting chased by an Elephant.
Credit: Peter Hall

They’re looking really good!
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2 of Big boy Charleston sons seen in Sabi sabi
https://www.facebook.com/100044171392606...l/?app=fbl

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(05-24-2024, 04:39 PM)Redroadmale Wrote: 2 of Big boy Charleston sons seen in Sabi sabi
https://www.facebook.com/100044171392606...l/?app=fbl

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History reapeating itself
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Quick question: how many Charelston sons are there?
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(05-24-2024, 10:25 PM)Rabubi Wrote: Quick question: how many Charelston sons are there?

Hard to know with 100%.

We currently know (who survived) of 2 older ones (born ~2017 and 2018) who are territorial at northern Jock atm.

And this 2 younger ones (born ~ 2020).

But there still could be more.

Some, including myself, speculate that 2 remaining Renosterkoppies/Nw's males Blondie and Mohawk might be their offspring aswell.
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Don’t these two have more brothers? Or was it just the two of them?
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(05-24-2024, 11:26 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 10:25 PM)Rabubi Wrote: Quick question: how many Charelston sons are there?

Hard to know with 100%.

We currently know (who survived) of 2 older ones (born ~2017 and 2018) who are territorial at northern Jock atm.

And this 2 younger ones (born ~ 2020).

But there still could be more.

Some, including myself, speculate that 2 remaining Renosterkoppies/Nw's males Blondie and Mohawk might be their offspring aswell.

Ok cool. Thank you for the response, my friend.
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(05-24-2024, 04:39 PM)Redroadmale Wrote: 2 of Big boy Charleston sons seen in Sabi sabi
https://www.facebook.com/100044171392606...l/?app=fbl

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Some on Facebook are saying that he's the son of the N'was Breakaway Lioness with the S. Avocas....
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(05-25-2024, 11:05 PM)Cath2020 Wrote:
(05-24-2024, 04:39 PM)Redroadmale Wrote: 2 of Big boy Charleston sons seen in Sabi sabi
https://www.facebook.com/100044171392606...l/?app=fbl

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Some on Facebook are saying that he's the son of the N'was Breakaway Lioness with the S. Avocas....

Hopefully we'll get some clarity.
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Indeed, I hope so.  

By the way, it's interesting that the N'was Breakaway Lioness was with her 4 brothers, the N'was Males, right before they came and settled in Sabi Sands, yet she had the good sense to stop following and staying with them early on.....very unlike what we are seeing right now with the Kambula Breakaway Lioness and her 4 brothers.  This lioness is still with them, arguably wasting away some of her  valuable reproductive years.  Isn't she at least 5 now?
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